Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeYour responses certainly don't reflect that.
More time apparently than you do answering questions.
The answers are all there. You need only take the time to think.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneGreat! Can you please link me to where you answered the following:
Your responses certainly don't reflect that.
The answers are all there. You need only take the time to think.
'Why are the words of Jesus somehow immune from the corruptions you happily identify in the rest of the Bible?'
Thanks
Originally posted by @thinkofoneHow are my beliefs self-serving?
How do you explain the fact that you're the one who holds remarkably self-serving beliefs?
Originally posted by @thinkofoneYour refusal to say if you think you are the “natural man” referred to by Paul in 1 Corinthians 2:14 is quite telling.
How do you explain the fact that you're the one who holds remarkably self-serving beliefs?
Originally posted by @romans1009Not positive that you hold each of these beliefs, but "vicarious atonement", "imputed righteousness" and " the utter depravity of man" are all self-serving beliefs.
How are my beliefs self-serving?
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Originally posted by @thinkofoneSo, you're judging him on beliefs you're not even sure he holds?!
Not positive that you hold each of these beliefs, but "vicarious atonement", "imputed righteousness" and " the utter depravity of man" are all self-serving beliefs.
(And yet spent the last hour complaining about people doing that to you? )
Originally posted by @thinkofoneThey’re all Biblically-based beliefs.
Not positive that you hold each of these beliefs, but "vicarious atonement", "imputed righteousness" and " the utter depravity of man" are all self-serving beliefs.
You’re still of the position that one becomes righteous (in right standing with God) and earns his or her way into heaven instead of both being accomplished by accepting Christ via John 3:16 and Romans 10:9. This is really the root of your misunderstanding.
You then seem to mistakenly think that one who believes that becoming righteous (in right standing with God) and obtaining salvation by accepting Christ will continue a life of willfully sinning and avoiding good works, when it’s clear that such a person did not receive Christ into his or her heart to begin with.
Why is it clear?
Because when one sincerely prays to accept Christ and receive Him, one receives the indwelling of God’s Holy Spirit, which gradually changes that person’s heart, and consequently his or her behavior, for the better. It doesn’t happen all at once because we are still in the flesh and still have free will and therefore still subject to temptation.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeNo. This is yet another illogical conclusion on your part.
So, you're judging him on beliefs you're not even sure he holds?!
(And yet spent the last hour complaining about people doing that to you? )
Get a hold of yourself, man. You have a mind. Use it.
Originally posted by @romans1009All of this is based on the Bible, not self-serving beliefs.
They’re all Biblically-based beliefs.
You’re still of the position that one becomes righteous (in right standing with God) and earns his or her way into heaven instead of both being accomplished by accepting Christ via John 3:16 and Romans 10:9. This is really the root of your misunderstanding.
You then seem to mistakenly think that one who believe ...[text shortened]... se we are still in the flesh and still have free will and therefore still subject to temptation.
Don’t attribute God’s wonderful grace and gift of salvation to human selfishness.
You can’t earn your way into righteousness (right standing with God) or life everlasting. They are gifts from God, given to those who sincerely accept Christ.
Originally posted by @romans1009You seem to have lost track of the issue at hand:
They’re all Biblically-based beliefs.
You’re still of the position that one becomes righteous (in right standing with God) and earns his or her way into heaven instead of both being accomplished by accepting Christ via John 3:16 and Romans 10:9. This is really the root of your misunderstanding.
You then seem to mistakenly think that one who believe ...[text shortened]... se we are still in the flesh and still have free will and therefore still subject to temptation.
"How do you explain the fact that you're the one who holds remarkably self-serving beliefs?"
Originally posted by @thinkofoneIs it not self-serving to take the words of Jesus as truthful because, well, you rather like them, but chuck the rest of the Bible in the bin because you don't.
You seem to have lost track of the issue at hand:
"How do you explain the fact that you're the one who holds remarkably self-serving beliefs?"
I'll have a bit of this, none of that. - It's not a faith you have sir, it's a buffet.
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Originally posted by @romans1009You've supplied another remarkably self-serving belief:
All of this is based on the Bible, not self-serving beliefs.
Don’t attribute God’s wonderful grace and gift of salvation to human selfishness.
You can’t earn your way into righteousness (right standing with God) or life everlasting. They are gifts from God, given to those who sincerely accept Christ.
"You can’t earn your way into righteousness (right standing with God) or life everlasting. They are gifts from God, given to those who sincerely accept Christ."
God is there to bestow that gift to you. How is that not God serving you?