10 Jan 22
@kellyjay saidThat is very bad advice. Look at you church people, you read the scripturas and your doctrine is nonsense. Look at the Priest and Levite in the parable of the Good Samaritan, who surely were bible scholars and they are heading for damnation. Look at all these bible readers who are nothing but arrogant hypocrites.
Read the scriptures.
The best advice is for someone to be like the Good Sanaritan and keep the commandments. There is no other sure way of getting eternal life.
10 Jan 22
@rajk999 saidYou are one of the very few who claim to understand scripture and says reading it is a bad idea.
That is very bad advice. Look at you church people, you read the scripturas and your doctrine is nonsense. Look at the Priest and Levite in the parable of the Good Samaritan, who surely were bible scholars and they are heading for damnation. Look at all these bible readers who are nothing but arrogant hypocrites.
The best advice is for someone to be like the Good Sanaritan and keep the commandments. There is no other sure way of getting eternal life.
10 Jan 22
@kellyjay saidGiven your definition and subsequent comments, are you the only Christian in the world you are certain exists?
I don’t worry about it is the Lord not me who sorts us out. No one looks to me too see who Jesus is doing a work of sanctification on, and who is on the outside looking in. We can look at each life’s fruit are they full of it grace, forgiving, or do they look no different than the rest? I can’t tell personally, some I know who refuse Christ on the outside look better than those who claim to know Him. It however isn’t the outside that matters as Christ in us.
10 Jan 22
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@fmf saidI'm not keeping score, putting people on scales attempting to determine where they will fall out concerning Christ. Jesus has this, not me, and I'm not here to judge, to be a gatekeeper on who is going to make it or not. I hate pigeonholing people, but I find myself doing it, where I stop looking at people as individuals and instead make them into this box, or that box, it robs them and me of our individually.
Given your definition and subsequent comments, are you the only Christian in the world you are certain exists?
10 Jan 22
@kellyjay saidSo you are unable to acknowledge anyone else as being a fellow Christian, is that what you mean? I said nothing about Christianity being a "box" or a "pigeonhole".
I'm not keeping score, putting people on scales attempting to determine where they will fall out concerning Christ. Jesus has this, not me, and I'm not here to judge, to be a gatekeeper on who is going to make it or not. I hate pigeonholing people, but I find myself doing it, where I stop looking at people as individuals and instead make them into this box, or that box, it robs them and me of our individually.
Is it a case of... There is KellyJay and then there are people who "claim" to be Christians. But KellyJay can't acknowledge that they are fellow believers in Jesus because to do so would "rob them" and KellyJay "of their individuality"?
10 Jan 22
@kellyjay saidChristianity segments it’s followers into “boxes”, they are called denominations.
I'm not keeping score, putting people on scales attempting to determine where they will fall out concerning Christ. Jesus has this, not me, and I'm not here to judge, to be a gatekeeper on who is going to make it or not. I hate pigeonholing people, but I find myself doing it, where I stop looking at people as individuals and instead make them into this box, or that box, it robs them and me of our individually.
10 Jan 22
@divegeester saidIf I cared about denominations, but I don't, as I pointed out to you, it's Jesus, not labels we use.
Christianity segments it’s followers into “boxes”, they are called denominations.
11 Jan 22
@kellyjay saidSo, there can be no Christian fellowship or community in your life, is that the implication of what you are saying? As you said: "Anyone can say that they are saved but if Jesus isn’t in them, if their hearts are far from God, they are deceiving themselves." This is your perspective on the people in your life who "claim" they are Christians?
We can look at each life’s fruit are they full of it grace, forgiving, or do they look no different than the rest? I can’t tell personally, some I know who refuse Christ on the outside look better than those who claim to know Him. It however isn’t the outside that matters as Christ in us.
11 Jan 22
@divegeester saidWhat is that to you?
Are you a member of a named Christian church denomination?
@fmf saidI acknowledge that within the body of believers I fellowship with, some can have a right relationship with Christ, and some don't. You want to judge people, try to find the good ones; we are all sinners, that is the default starting position; Christ takes sinners and walks with them, making them more like Him. His voice, not mine, is the one people belong to listen for; whatever 'implication' you think about is of no concern to me. God calls us all; we each will give an account for what we did with our lives, not how we hand-picked or figured out those that God accepted and rejected.
So, there can be no Christian fellowship or community in your life, is that the implication of what you are saying? As you said: "Anyone can say that they are saved but if Jesus isn’t in them, if their hearts are far from God, they are deceiving themselves." This is your perspective on the people in your life who "claim" they are Christians?
11 Jan 22
@fmf saidSo in your opinion, does being a deist have anything to do with me whatsoever? Why am I getting the third degree?
So you are unable to acknowledge anyone else as being a fellow Christian, is that what you mean? I said nothing about Christianity being a "box" or a "pigeonhole".
Is it a case of... There is KellyJay and then there are people who "claim" to be Christians. But KellyJay can't acknowledge that they are fellow believers in Jesus because to do so would "rob them" and KellyJay "of their individuality"?