05 Feb 20
@metal-brain saidI already explained on the first page there is no such thing as "electron spin speed."
No, you refused to answer and you referred me to wikipedia because you are incapable of answering those questions without contradicting yourself. You said electron spin could be measured and later you said there was no speed to measure.
You clearly do not know what you are talking about.
@kazetnagorra saidI also told him this. And I didn't get that from wiki (don't get why he is so stupidly angry about us getting quotes from wiki especially as HE also sometimes quotes wiki). And he keeps shouting to us we don't answer his questions or explain anything to him after we just did!
I already explained on the first page there is no such thing as "electron spin speed."
@athousandyoung saidPhotons are spin 1. So light does spin in this sense.
Light doesn't spin
@deepthought saidyes, but they don't spin like a spinning top.
Photons are spin 1. So light does spin in this sense.
09 Feb 20
@deepthought saidWhat is your source of information?
Photons are spin 1. So light does spin in this sense.
09 Feb 20
@kazetnagorra saidSo there is nothing to measure? You are still contradicting yourself.
I already explained on the first page there is no such thing as "electron spin speed."
@metal-brain saidHe is a physicist.
What is your source of information?
Do you deny that a photon is defined as having a spin of either -1 or 1?
09 Feb 20
@humy saidThis thread is about electron spin, not photons.
He is a physicist.
Do you deny that a photon is defined as having a spin of either -1 or 1?
He has failed so he is digressing into a different subject. That is what people do when they have lost the debate. He knows he contradicted himself and he cannot undo his mistake.
Kazet screwed up and you are defending his screw up and making yourself look like a screw up as well. You have very poor judgement.
@metal-brain saidIf you think its so wrong to steer the conversation of this thread so to also include that of spin of photons then why did you clearly deliberately steer the conversation to include that of photon spin by asking "What is your source of information?" about the spin of photons being 1? Hypocrite!
This thread is about electron spin, not photons.
09 Feb 20
@humy saidIf you can prove photons spin I will talk about it, but nobody has proven that on here.
If you think its so wrong to steer the conversation of this thread so to also include that of spin of photons then why did you clearly deliberately steer the conversation to include that of photon spin by asking "What is your source of information?" about the spin of photons being 1? Hypocrite!
@metal-brain saidArr, at least, you have just admitted you think there may be no proof. Just as I suspected.
If you can prove photons spin I will talk about it, but nobody has proven that on here.
It took my about 30 seconds of my time to google search and find this about that experimental proof;
https://core.ac.uk/reader/49287350
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/09/160926115345.htm
This just shows your delusional arrogant complete ignorance on the subject.
@metal-brain saidThere is something to measure, just not the "speed" of intrinsic spin, which is not a thing. Spin can be measured e.g. through the Stern-Gerlach experiment.
So there is nothing to measure? You are still contradicting yourself.
@metal-brain saidThat was from memory, but a reference for this is easy to provide. This is the Particle Data Group's listing for Gauge and Higgs Bosons, the relevant quantity is listed as J.
What is your source of information?
http://pdg.lbl.gov/2019/tables/rpp2019-sum-gauge-higgs-bosons.pdf
@kazetnagorra saidIf it isn't speed being measured what is being measured?
There is something to measure, just not the "speed" of intrinsic spin, which is not a thing. Spin can be measured e.g. through the Stern-Gerlach experiment.