Electron spin

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
You prove your arrogance and ignorance all at once.

LOL!

Prove it and explain how it supposedly makes sense.

"The quantization of spin is reflected in the discrete effect of the applied magnetic field."

So now he is saying the magnetic field causes spin. LOL! But wait....there is a discrete effect too. Is a discrete effect spin? LOL! No, it is reflected. Not caused, but reflected? I would ask him to explain it but it is obvious he has no idea what he is talking about.



Do you all have any more nonsensical jargon to avoid explaining anything adequately?

@metal-brain said
LOL!

Prove it and explain how it supposedly makes sense.

"The quantization of spin is reflected in the discrete effect of the applied magnetic field."

So now he is saying the magnetic field causes spin. LOL! But wait....there is a discrete effect too. Is a discrete effect spin? LOL! No, it is reflected. Not caused, but reflected? I would ask him to explain it bu ...[text shortened]... g about.



Do you all have any more nonsensical jargon to avoid explaining anything adequately?

Have you considered the possibility that you might need to learn what that jargon (such as spin) means, rather than the onus being on others to explain them to you according to your own satisfaction?

@kazetnagorra said
Have you considered the possibility that you might need to learn what that jargon (such as spin) means, rather than the onus being on others to explain them to you according to your own satisfaction?

You mean the spin that isn't really spin?

@metal-brain said
You mean the spin that isn't really spin?

By definition, spin is really spin.

@kazetnagorra said
By definition, spin is really spin.

Not according to wikipedia, your go to source.

@metal-brain said
You mean the spin that isn't really spin?

I could spin you a tale without turning around.
Do you have a problem with that usage of "spin" too?

@wolfgang59 said
I could spin you a tale without turning around.

Oh don't make his head spin.

@wolfgang59 said
I could spin you a tale without turning around.
Do you have a problem with that usage of "spin" too?

Define intrinsic spin.

@metal-brain said
Define intrinsic spin.

We already have.
Just look it up.

@humy said
We already have.
Just look it up.

Explain it without more jargon terms meant to avoid explaining anything. Can you do that? If not, you don't understand it.

Look up "intrinsic". Does it help you understand? Pretending to understand something you don't is stupid. Why do you do that? A smart person admits he doesn't understand something so he can learn. Stupid people use meaningless jargon to hide the fact they don't understand it. That is why they always post a wikipedia link instead of explaining it themselves.

@metal-brain said
Explain it without more jargon terms

you mean jargon terms like "spin"?
Explain which 'jargon terms' we used you find offensive...

@metal-brain said
Explain it without more jargon terms meant to avoid explaining anything. Can you do that? If not, you don't understand it.

Look up "intrinsic". Does it help you understand? Pretending to understand something you don't is stupid. Why do you do that? A smart person admits he doesn't understand something so he can learn. Stupid people use meaningless jargon to hide the fa ...[text shortened]... 't understand it. That is why they always post a wikipedia link instead of explaining it themselves.

The difficulty is that as we are forbidden more and more words it becomes impossible to say anything at all.

@Metal-Brain
It it YOU having the problem. You are as I have said several times now, intellectually lazy, wanting everyone else to spoon feed you knowledge and I question the motives for such a stance.
You are not being honest.

@deepthought said
The difficulty is that as we are forbidden more and more words it becomes impossible to say anything at all.

Intrinsic is a word with a definition. That word does nothing to describe spin. Furthermore, the wikipedia link for "intrinsic spin" says spin is not really spin in the traditional sense. So now we are left wondering what the traditional sense is and how intrinsic differs.

Has spin been measured or not? Kazet first said it could be measured and later claimed there was no speed. If there is no speed to measure he contradicted himself.

Can you do better? What is spinning and can it be measured? If you don't know just say so. There is no shame in admitting one doesn't know. It is often the most intelligent answer. It beats living in a self imposed modern dark ages where one pretends to know stuff they don't and so never learn from it.

Why not just admit you cannot answer some of my questions and work with me to find out the answers? I was going to create a thread called "what causes magnetism?" What is the point though? It is all about spin, right? Spin isn't really spin according to wikipedia though.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intrinsic

@metal-brain said
Explain it without more jargon terms meant to avoid explaining anything. Can you do that? If not, you don't understand it.

Look up "intrinsic". Does it help you understand? Pretending to understand something you don't is stupid. Why do you do that? A smart person admits he doesn't understand something so he can learn. Stupid people use meaningless jargon to hide the fa ...[text shortened]... 't understand it. That is why they always post a wikipedia link instead of explaining it themselves.

Electron spin is thing. Is not exactly like twirly swirly. But in some ways is like twirly swirly.