Originally posted by hopscotch"A profession is a vocation founded upon specialised educational training, the purpose of which is to supply disinterested counsel and service to others, for a direct and definite compensation, wholly apart from expectation of other business gain." -pg 4
Explain why "murderer" is a profession, as you state that it is one, and it is not one.
Cold blooded murder is a learned skill as well as a criminal activity. Killers aquire 'training' one way or another... on their own (Cain in his jealous rage, using his brother's sacrificial offering knife to slit his throat), in street gangs, drug cartels, large mafia business or illuminati type organizations, global terrorist cells, high security felon offense prisons, etc. Murderers render a service for their own or the direct benefit of some element of society or crusader cause (however dubious, unsavory, despicable or evil) with expectation of some imaginary or real psychic income or tangible compensation. Wondering how you might categorize murderers.
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28 Mar 10
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySo you think that assassination is the same thing as regular murder?
"A profession is a vocation founded upon specialised educational training, the purpose of which is to supply disinterested counsel and service to others, for a direct and definite compensation, wholly apart from expectation of other business gain." -pg 4
Cold blooded murder is a learned skill as well as a criminal activity. Killers aquire 'training' ...[text shortened]... u might categorize murderers.
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If a guy gets paid to kill another guy, that's a profession because he profits from it.
If a guy goes home drunk and shoots his family, who benefits from that? You cannot say that he was compensated. You can say that he might be "intangibly compensated" (which you seem to believe), but nowhere in the definition of the word profession does it say anything about intangible or imaginary nonsense. In fact, in the definition you provided it states: "DIRECT AND DEFINITE COMPENSATION".
I'd love to see you speak to murder victim's families and tell them that murder is a profession.
28 Mar 10
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyAll murderers are not professional killers.
"A profession is a vocation founded upon specialised educational training, the purpose of which is to supply disinterested counsel and service to others, for a direct and definite compensation, wholly apart from expectation of other business gain." -pg 4
Cold blooded murder is a learned skill as well as a criminal activity. Killers aquire 'training' ...[text shortened]... u might categorize murderers.
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Cain was acting as an individual, not as a professional hitman supplying "disinterested
counsel and service to others for a direct and definite compensation."
Hop, Tim, Andy... I recognize that friends may differ in their use of working
definitions within a conversation and do respect your varying points of view.
Similarly, I've no desire to change your minds or waste time splitting hairs.
I appreciate each of your contributions to this lively general forum thread.
Thanks.
28 Mar 10
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYou've created a thread asking what the world's oldest profession is and all the little forumites have been trying to guess the answer to your question...
Hop, Tim, Andy... I recognize that friends may differ in their use of working
definitions within a conversation and do respect your varying points of view.
Similarly, I've no desire to change your minds or waste time splitting hairs.
I appreciate each of your contributions to this lively general forum thread.
Thanks.
but you don't even understand the definition of the word "profession" as you have clearly demonstrated here by labelling "murderer" as a profession.
This is not a "lively general forum thread", this is a complete and utter farce.
Originally posted by hopscotchIs farce a profession?
You've created a thread asking what the world's oldest profession is and all the little forumites have been trying to guess the answer to your question...
but you don't even understand the definition of the word "profession" as you have clearly demonstrated here by labelling "murderer" as a profession.
This is not a "lively general forum thread", this is a complete and utter farce.
Originally posted by StarrmanNot even close. Child bearing/procreation wasn't in the picture until outside the garden.
He'll probably say that 'mother' is the answer and then attempt to justify it in a similar way to 'murderer'.
Inside... sexual intercourse was designed as a recreational expression of marital love.