25 Jan 13
Originally posted by stellspalfieI lold.
we are told god created all living things. it stands to reason then that he created sexually transmitted viruses. so where did they live in the beginning? the only conclusion i can draw is that adam and eve had gammy love organs. no wonder they rebelled against god.
25 Jan 13
Originally posted by stellspalfieYour claim that "it stands to reason" might have a few gaping holes in it.
we are told god created all living things. it stands to reason then that he created sexually transmitted viruses. so where did they live in the beginning? the only conclusion i can draw is that adam and eve had gammy love organs. no wonder they rebelled against god.
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25 Jan 13
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Originally posted by stellspalfieMaybe we need a powerful supernatural evil character in this story, created by the god character and granted creative powers and free will by the god character.
we are told god created all living things. it stands to reason then that he created sexually transmitted viruses. so where did they live in the beginning? the only conclusion i can draw is that adam and eve had gammy love organs. no wonder they rebelled against god.
25 Jan 13
Originally posted by stellspalfieInteresting question but one has to remember that Adam & Eve were created perfect in body.
we are told god created all living things. it stands to reason then that he created sexually transmitted viruses. so where did they live in the beginning? the only conclusion i can draw is that adam and eve had gammy love organs. no wonder they rebelled against god.
Being perfect they were immune from any sickness and diseases. Their bodies were completly able to fight off anything that would have made them sick much less to the point of death.
If they had stayed faithful to God they would still be alive today. That was God's plan and it would have worked if Adam had not disobeyed God's simple command.
So those germs did exist then and like everything God created, it had some purpose even if we do not understand that now.
We know that virus's can mutate and have done that down to this day.
Maybe they were not as dangerous at that time and even after Adam & Eve sinned and started the long period of growing old it may have been harmless to all humans for a period of time. Who knows?
But the point is that all life that exist now on earth, did exist then, but the planet and humans were under different circumstances also in the past.
25 Jan 13
Originally posted by galveston75Yes, these Evil-lutionists should know all about the evil virus mutations, and such. 😏
Interesting question but one has to remember that Adam & Eve were created perfect in body.
Being perfect they were immune from any sickness and diseases. Their bodies were completly able to fight off anything that would have made them sick much less to the point of death.
If they had stayed faithful to God they would still be alive today. That was Go ...[text shortened]... id exist then, but the planet and humans were under different circumstances also in the past.
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26 Jan 13
Originally posted by galveston75I think the "powerful supernatural evil character" idea is at least as good as this one because it avoids there being god-caused deleterious mutations or even avoids there being mutations at all which will please the YECs. Or maybe the powerful supernatural evil character caused the deleterious mutations. How's that? Just so this god of stellspalfie's has deniability, that's the objective here. Don't think of it as being about Jehovah.
Interesting question but one has to remember that Adam & Eve were created perfect in body.
Being perfect they were immune from any sickness and diseases. Their bodies were completly able to fight off anything that would have made them sick much less to the point of death.
If they had stayed faithful to God they would still be alive today. That was Go ...[text shortened]... id exist then, but the planet and humans were under different circumstances also in the past.
26 Jan 13
Originally posted by galveston75So all human pathogens that exist now existed then.
But the point is that all life that exist now on earth, did exist then, but the planet and humans were under different circumstances also in the past.
If Adam and Eve did not have them they must have lived elsewhere.
If the pathogens lived elsewhere, but now cannot,
they must surely be different now than then.
In other words they have evolved.
26 Jan 13
Originally posted by wolfgang59No evolution here at all. All life that existed then is still alive today except for the ones man has removed.
So all human pathogens that exist now existed then.
If Adam and Eve did not have them they must have lived elsewhere.
If the pathogens lived elsewhere, but now cannot,
they must surely be different now than then.
In other words they have evolved.
26 Jan 13
Originally posted by JS357No my friend. It is about Jehovah and satan and us humans that are caught in between. And here we are today in the pitiful state we're in because man as a whole has chosen satan.
I think the "powerful supernatural evil character" idea is at least as good as this one because it avoids there being god-caused deleterious mutations or even avoids there being mutations at all which will please the YECs. Or maybe the powerful supernatural evil character caused the deleterious mutations. How's that? Just so this god of stellspalfie's has deniability, that's the objective here. Don't think of it as being about Jehovah.
26 Jan 13
Originally posted by galveston75Do you urge those of us who think that the human condition is improving, and the world is a better place - all in all - than it was in the past, to thank Jehovah for the progress that has been made?
No my friend. It is about Jehovah and satan and us humans that are caught in between. And here we are today in the pitiful state we're in because man as a whole has chosen satan.