Originally posted by FMFNo i think expressing ones perspective is all good and well and if divesgeester has that perspective then all is good and well, it is after all his perspective and not mine. I have no issue with people for any reason harboring any kind of views. I am only interested in understanding why they hold those views and to what extent.
So you think making fun of obese people is "all is good and well". This is what puts you at odds with Grampy Bobby then? He thinks the OP is so bad he's trying to drag divegeester's abilities as a family man into the dispute.
04 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut you accept that if the message contains your own views or that the message is a personalized remark about the person you're talking to, you should take personal responsibility for it, right? So what is actually meant by 'don't shoot the messenger' doesn't apply, surely?
I don't think it matters who originates the message.
04 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat is your view on the OP?
No i think expressing ones perspective is all good and well and if divesgeester has that perspective then all is good and well, it is after all his perspective and not mine. I have no issue with people for any reason harboring any kind of views. I am only interested in understanding why they hold those views.
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04 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat part of my OP offends you?
No i think expressing ones perspective is all good and well and if divesgeester has that perspective then all is good and well, it is after all his perspective and not mine. I have no issue with people for any reason harboring any kind of views. I am only interested in understanding why they hold those views.
04 Feb 16
Originally posted by FMFI have really no idea what you are saying, you seem to be talking gibberish and i mean that sincerely. shooting the messenger is a very simple concept to grasp.
But you accept that if the message contains your own views or that the message is a personalized remark about the person you're talking to, you should take personal responsibility for it, right? So what is actually meant by 'don't shoot the messenger' doesn't apply, surely?
04 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHow does 'don't shoot the messenger apply' if the message is just your own personalized remarks aimed at the person you are addressing?
I have really no idea what you are saying, you seem to be talking gibberish and i mean that sincerely. shooting the messenger is a very simple concept to grasp.
04 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIs Grampy Bobby mistaken to be as offended as he seems to be? He has tried to drag divegeester's family into the discussion and the way divegeester was brought up when he was a child. Do you think this degree of condemnation is called for, in your view?
none i am not offended at all, where have I stated that i was offended? if i have not why are you saying that I am? are you also engaging in gibberish? why would you do that?
04 Feb 16
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Originally posted by FMFI have no idea whether he was mistaken or not, we are human beings and prone to aberration, the possibility for making mistakes is within us all, infact its unreasonable to think that we will not make mistakes. I am uninterested in condemning anyone, sorry.
Is Grampy Bobby mistaken to be as offended as he seems to be? He has tried to drag divegeester's family into the discussion and the way divegeester was brought up when he was a child. Do you think this degree of condemnation is called for, in your view?
04 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDo you personally believe the OP makes fun of obese people?
I have no idea whether he was mistaken or not, we are human beings and prone to aberration, the possibility for making mistakes is within us all, infact its unreasonable to think that we will not make mistakes. I am uninterested in condemning anyone, sorry.