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@ponderable saidIf people tear gas you when you're in a crush and have no means of escape you have a right to be extremely angry, very very angry, and it would indeed be understandable that you would do anything in your power make it stop. The alternatives: A closely packed crowd behind you nowhere to go, in front, a sadistic pig intentionally causing you intense pain, between you and an open space and potentially some means of flushing your eyes.
If people begin to tear gas you, are you sure that you are invited? Yes or no
The mental state of someone (sadistic psychopath) who teargases trapped people means they should never be able to wield such a weapon, or any weapon again. Or alternatively they can volunteer to be put in cuffs and tear gassed themselves. Maybe you'd like to try.
If people throw stun grenades at you when you're in a crush with no means of escape then you have a right to defend your life because if one did not drop to the ground and got caught between yourself and another person, you're very likely dead, in fact the injuries its capable of doing, you'd prefer to be dead. And a protestor did die. If there's a chance of grabbing a plexiglass shield and using that to protect yourself that would be justified.
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@wajoma saidI mean it's not like they were caught in a crush getting off the subway. They stormed a police barricade. They entered a restricted federal building. They all knew that their behavior was illegal.
If people tear gas you when you're in a crush and have no means of escape you have a right to be extremely angry, very very angry, and it would indeed be understandable that you would do anything in your power make it stop. The alternatives: A closely packed crowd behind you nowhere to go, in front, a sadistic pig intentionally causing you intense pain, between you and an open ...[text shortened]... a chance of grabbing a plexiglass shield and using that to protect yourself that would be justified.
If you are being teargassed, and you reach into your backpack to pull out a gas mask, maybe you came prepared for something more than a peaceful demonstration ?
@wildgrass said" They stormed a police barricade"
I mean it's not like they were caught in a crush getting off the subway. They stormed a police barricade. They entered a restricted federal building. They all knew that their behavior was illegal.
If you are being teargassed, and you reach into your backpack to pull out a gas mask, maybe you came prepared for something more than a peaceful demonstration ?
Didn't Ray Epps order people to storm the barricade?
He got probation and community service.
@wildgrass saidwildgrass puts her hand up to take a blast of tear gas in the face to prove it aint nuthin.
I mean it's not like they were caught in a crush getting off the subway. They stormed a police barricade. They entered a restricted federal building. They all knew that their behavior was illegal.
If you are being teargassed, and you reach into your backpack to pull out a gas mask, maybe you came prepared for something more than a peaceful demonstration ?
And then while blinded she'll be juggling stun grenades that have the pin removed.
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@ponderable saidI t ___ w a s ___ a ___ J O K E.
Is is okay to enter an office and put dirty boots on a desk? Yes or no?
And the butt of the joke is you, and cry babies like you.
'oooo, the sacred politician desk, oooo, the blessed wood, a politician once sat here, in this very spot' Talk about next level state worship.
BTW, I saw the picture, boots weren't dirty.
@wajoma saidThe cops weren't breaking the law.
Bootlicker, the guy was hanging on for his life the cop peeled his fingers off. And you wonder why some protestors in the heat of the moment got angry. The cops were instigating the violence. Shag doody read an NPR headline posted a link to a vid but they hadn't cropped it enough, it showed a protestor being pushed (maybe not for the first time) he pushed the cop back and t ...[text shortened]... badly the wanted the protestors to look like rioters and it backfired badly, for NPR and shatmixir.
@wajoma saidRichard Barnett was pleading guilty and was convicetd to 54 month in Prison, I am not so sure, taht he is laughing a lot about that "joke".
I t ___ w a s ___ a ___ J O K E.
And the butt of the joke is you, and cry babies like you.
'oooo, the sacred politician desk, oooo, the blessed wood, a politician once sat here, in this very spot' Talk about next level state worship.
BTW, I saw the picture, boots weren't dirty.
@ponderable saidPleading guilty to putting clean boots on a desk?
Richard Barnett was pleading guilty and was convicetd to 54 month in Prison, I am not so sure, taht he is laughing a lot about that "joke".
Just proves the point of the vindictive malicious nature of yourself and the kakistocracy, like the religious fanatics of old (and more recent religious fanatics) they can't stand being laughed at. But there's more. Being laughed at is one thing, but realising its's justified , ouch.
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@sonhouse saidSunstroker, this is what is known as misrepresentation, a form of dishonesty, and I'm really trying to refrain from the "you're a liar" "no you're a liar" "no you're the liar" suziman type debate tactics.
@Wajoma
So you who were not even CLOSE to being there think it was a peaceful demonstration? Are you actually living on planet Earth?
So we don't get on that pointless go nowhere merry-go-round.
You WILL POST A QUOTE of me saying what happened on Jan 6th was a "peaceful demonstration" (strokers words), I'm 100% positive I have never said this, but stand to be corrected by a verbatim quote from you, or you WILL retract and apologise.
Haha, just kidding you'll just run away like you always do.