25 Jan 22
@sh76 saidCOVID deaths are still averaging almost 2000 a day and it's been more than a month since omicron became the dominant variant.
I have carefully looked at the evidence.
On the one hand, people showing up with Omicron (especially at hospitals) seems overwhelmingly unvaxxed.
On the other hand, most experts you speak to put the protection against infection at 30% or less.
Why the apparent discrepancy?
Possibilities:
1. Mild infections (which are the vast majority of infections in vaxxed peopl ...[text shortened]... nterest in coercive measures and (especially) draconian measures like school and business shutdowns.
Surely measures which encourage vaccination easily pass any "public interest" test.
25 Jan 22
@sh76 saidSo another respiratory virus is going around and the corporate news media is happy to let people think it is covid. Nice. As if the gene vaccine makers don't have enough hundreds of billions yet.
Sorry; I was quite busy over the weekend.
Travelling outside the US for the first time since 2019 tonight. Took my PCR on Sunday.
Good news: Negative for Omicron
Bad news: Positive for RSV
Good news: Nobody gives a damn about RSV (or influenza or rinovirus and smallpox or diptheria or rabies), as long as you don't have Omicold, they're happy to let you in.
Have you seen the profits of Pfizer? You will not see much of that on the corporate news media. It is an insane amount.
25 Jan 22
@no1marauder saidThose are not confirmed deaths.
COVID deaths are still averaging almost 2000 a day and it's been more than a month since omicron became the dominant variant.
Surely measures which encourage vaccination easily pass any "public interest" test.
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25 Jan 22
@metal-brain saidIn what way? A doctor signed their death certificates. What do you want, their heads on a platter!?
Those are not confirmed deaths.
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25 Jan 22
@metal-brain saidEvery time you ask that question, you prove yourself a Scientologist-alike cultist.
What is your source of information?
25 Jan 22
@shallow-blue saidThat doesn't mean anything. Just because they tested positive for covid doesn't mean they died from covid. Heck, it doesn't even mean they had covid. You have heard about false positives and cycle threshold of PCR tests they have abandoned for that reason.
In what way? A doctor signed their death certificates. What do you want, their heads on a platter!?
25 Jan 22
@shallow-blue saidStating facts proves I am the cultist? No, you denying facts makes you the cultist. You are a covid extremist under psychosis.
Every time you ask that question, you prove yourself a Scientologist-alike cultist.
https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/09/miscounting-covid-an-original-investigation-by-sharyl-attkisson/
You are in denial of reality. Why don't they count vaccine deaths the same way? Why are they never confirmed deaths? You are condoning a double standard.
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25 Jan 22
@metal-brain saidNo, repeating a mantra over and over and over again does that.
Stating facts proves I am the cultist?
"What is your source?"
"What is your source?"
"What is your source?"
"What is your source?"
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"What is your source?"
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You're a cultist in your own mind, only willing to accept an answer that is allowable within your personal, internal cult.
25 Jan 22
@shallow-blue saidI post my sources, cultist either don't or their sources are deeply flawed. That would be you.
No, repeating a mantra over and over and over again does that.
"What is your source?"
"What is your source?"
"What is your source?"
"What is your source?"
"What is your source?"
"What is your source?"
"What is your source?"
"What is your source?"
"What is your source?"
You're a cultist in your own mind, only willing to accept an answer that is allowable within your personal, internal cult.
25 Jan 22
@metal-brain saidJust a couple of examples
"On the one hand, people showing up with Omicron (especially at hospitals) seems overwhelmingly unvaxxed"
What is your source of information? You did say you carefully looked at the evidence.
https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf (page 3)
https://nypost.com/2021/12/30/nyc-hospitalization-rate-for-unvaccinated-nearly-1-in-1000/
"The latest figures also show that the weekly hospitalization rate for vaccinated people suffering breakthrough COVID-19 infections dropped to just 3 per 100,000 on Dec. 18 from 5.12 a week earlier."
25 Jan 22
@shallow-blue saidOkay, that one made me laugh.
In what way? A doctor signed their death certificates. What do you want, their heads on a platter!?
25 Jan 22
@sh76 saidI read some of the PDF document and noticed that the percentage of population part is much higher for the vaccinated. Can you explain that?
Just a couple of examples
https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf (page 3)
https://nypost.com/2021/12/30/nyc-hospitalization-rate-for-unvaccinated-nearly-1-in-1000/
"The latest figures also show that the weekly hospitalization rate for vaccinated people suffering breakthrough COVID-19 infections dropped to just 3 per 100,000 on Dec. 18 from 5.12 a week earlier."
The other link doesn't specify which variants. Didn't you say omicron?
25 Jan 22
@metal-brain saidBoth of your sources make no mention of omicron that I noticed.
"On the one hand, people showing up with Omicron (especially at hospitals) seems overwhelmingly unvaxxed"
What is your source of information? You did say you carefully looked at the evidence.
I believe you are mistaken. Omicron is vaccine resistant. Pfizer would not spend money to develop a new omicron specific gene vaccine if the one now works as well as they claim. Common sense.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/omicron-variant-pfizer-starts-clinical-trial-modified-covid-vaccine-rcna13379
