CA Senate candidate wants $50 minimum wage. Funny.

@averagejoe1 said
Did anyone explain the common sense, or the fallacy, of this premise?

What should government do? It should should raise the minimum wage so fewer people are collecting food stamp benefits.

@wildgrass said
What should government do? It should should raise the minimum wage so fewer people are collecting food stamp benefits.

That wasn't the question.

@wildgrass said
What should government do? It should should raise the minimum wage so fewer people are collecting food stamp benefits.

Re-stated, you are saying this: "The minimum wage should be reaised so that more EMPLYERS are paying more of their revenues to th4 employees."
In true lockstep, you are only presenting the happy side, that employees get more money.
That is the end of this post.. However, this addendum: How much more?

@sonhouse said
@Wajoma
I guess if you want to avoid all that gummint shyte, you can live in a nice warm cave and tell humanity to go fuk themselves.

'Re-stated', if I want to avoid govt shyte, I make myself self-reliant and independent. And, I would like a small one room shack on Walden Pond, you are correct. Wouldn't you, Sonhouse?
Cave would not be good for my good health. I am a shack man.

@sonhouse said
@Wajoma
I guess if you want to avoid all that gummint shyte, you can live in a nice warm cave and tell humanity to go fuk themselves.

This is where I say: 'No, you go and live in cave, x 100'
Then sunstroker says: 'No you go and live in a cave, x infinity x infinity to the power of infinity, nyah nyah I win'

Yes, you win something shathouse, but it's not what you think.

@wajoma said
That wasn't the question.

Yes it was. Oh sorry, Joe used the word 'precious' in his question. I left that out.

@wildgrass said
Yes it was. Oh sorry, Joe used the word 'precious' in his question. I left that out.

No it wasn't, to infinity x one thousand million, and I can't write that enough.

@wajoma said
No it wasn't, to infinity x one thousand million, and I can't write that enough.

I can't read words for you.

@wajoma said
No it wasn't, to infinity x one thousand million, and I can't write that enough.

Note that somewhere up above, Wildgrass made mention of the government giving out food stamps. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think that has anything to do with the questions posed in this thread. I asked very simple questions about thinking of the employer when you make such decisions, not only the employee getting more money. That is not too hard to understand. But then this Wildgrass person comes back with crap about the government and food stamps and expects us to even possibly follow what he is talking about. He should start another thread on that, don’t you think. Food stamps and living off the government, such as that.

@averagejoe1 said
Note that somewhere up above, Wildgrass made mention of the government giving out food stamps. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think that has anything to do with the questions posed in this thread. I asked very simple questions about thinking of the employer when you make such decisions, not only the employee getting more money. That is not too hard to understand. Bu ...[text shortened]... t another thread on that, don’t you think. Food stamps and living off the government, such as that.

It's one of the core economic arguments for raising the minimum wage. Wages go up, poverty decreases, and government benefits programs shrink.

Your position on the minimum wage depends on whether you like government spending or not.

@wildgrass said
It's one of the core economic arguments for raising the minimum wage. Wages go up, poverty decreases, and government benefits programs shrink.

Your position on the minimum wage depends on whether you like government spending or not.

Contrare, my position is what the hell the companies do when you and Marauder say ‘Work it out’ when faced with impending doom.
Note that, in all of your comments, you never mentioned that side of the coin. What is it with you liberals. You always just think of gimme it gimme, gimme it, caring not where it comes from or what damage might be done.
Clearly, you say here, wages go up. Please note that you said that just above. But you did not say what happens to the corporation as their revenues drop. Are you messing with me, Wildgrass. Making me type all of this obvious crap.

@averagejoe1 said
Contrare, my position is what the hell the companies do when you and Marauder say ‘Work it out’ when faced with impending doom.
Note that, in all of your comments, you never mentioned that side of the coin. What is it with you liberals. You always just think of gimme it gimme, gimme it, caring not where it comes from or what damage might be done.
Clearly, you sa ...[text shortened]... s their revenues drop. Are you messing with me, Wildgrass. Making me type all of this obvious crap.

'what happens to the corporation as their revenues drop'

If corporate revenue is less because the federal government no longer subsidizes the labor costs of their workforce, then I am o.k. with it.

@wildgrass said
'what happens to the corporation as their revenues drop'

If corporate revenue is less because the federal government no longer subsidizes the labor costs of their workforce, then I am o.k. with it.

I did not say anything about Govt or subsidies in the question. The concept is quite simple. You could have riddled it more by saying that the unions would have such and such effect, could you not? An easy, but unsuccessful, attempt to avoid the issue of AvJoe. I am right. If I were wrong, you would simply point out the fallacy of my question. Since you cannot, your pitiful response about govt subsidies, as if they subsidize donut shops, is a loser. The hardware store doesn't have any subsidies, either . One may have a union, one may not.
But my question....oh well, lets quit, you go down on this one. You lose. Pitiful.

@wildgrass said
It's one of the core economic arguments for raising the minimum wage. Wages go up, poverty decreases, and government benefits programs shrink.

Your position on the minimum wage depends on whether you like government spending or not.

This is the airhead post of Wiregrass. "wages go up, poverty, decreases, and government benefits programs shrink." Why is that all that he says, when having corps and companies and donut shops pay high wages has other effects as well? Why do libs do this? He also tried to add to my question. Why do they do that?
Why will he not answer the question, the heart of the matter, that for every dollar the wages go up, the cost of their products go up equally?

A goal of Wgrass and Marauder is to shake down corps so that govt takes them over, an element of socialism.
Are you kids getting this?

@averagejoe1 said
This is the airhead post of Wiregrass. "wages go up, poverty, decreases, and government benefits programs shrink." Why is that all that he says, when having corps and companies and donut shops pay high wages has other effects as well? Why do libs do this? He also tried to add to my question. Why do they do that?
Why will he not answer the question, the heart of the ...[text shortened]... ke down corps so that govt takes them over, an element of socialism.
Are you kids getting this?

wildgrass cry, cry, cries the corporations make too much profit. Remembering that profit is only the difference between what something costs to produce and what someone is prepared to pay for it.

She would like there to be less profit.

Solution: wildgrass gets together with other like minded people they start their own non-profit business which pays higher wages. This recipe is sure to undercut the exiting competition and will soon take over from them. It's a win win all round, and no one is forced to do anything.