Yet Another JW Thread

Originally posted by Badwater
I'm not sure what's up with the curious JW stalking, but...

I think you'd find a lot of these don'ts on lists for a lot of other Christian denominations. It's hardly unique to the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Because the other denominations dont come incessesantly to your door to preach. And even when you say 'no thnx' they say 'I'll see you in two weeks'.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
if you understood the origins of a practice then perhaps you also might like to try to engage the cognitive process and try to discern why a Christian might find a practice objectionable, as it is, you seem merely to be content to take in the tabloid nature of the claims? a failure to understand anothers position, even if we do not agree with it ours ...[text shortened]... o so empty that you need to stalk and single out another religion and make fun of its practices?

superstition!!

I suppose you couldn't throw macaroni either because it is rice-like.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
superstition!!

I suppose you couldn't throw macaroni either because it is rice-like.

next time a Buddhist knocks on my door and sets himself on fire, i will tell him, sorry mate im not interested, go get a life! you wallow in prejudice and any claims that you make of open mindedness are frankly quite false, irrespective of what you claim. a hollow man issuing forth nothing but mocking tones, a clashing cymbal devoid of understanding.

Originally posted by Rajk999
141 Things that JWs are not allowed to do. Would be nice if the JWs on the site can verify these.

1.Belong to another organization or club for the purpose of socializing and friendship with 'worldly' people (Christian or not) who are not Jehovah's Witnesses. (Belonging to a professional association is allowed to the extent that it is required for employme except for limited exceptions ).

Some of these rules are not so different from other religions. The Catholic Church for example would agree with Robbie that sex is primarily a gift of love and so it is sinful outside the context of a marriage. The Church would agree that masturbation, pornography and fornication are wrong. The Church however has no problem with disparity of cult (marrying someone outside the faith), casual dating or breaking an engagement. Catholics also do wear a cross and own religious pictures and statues.

Originally posted by Conrau K
Some of these rules are not so different from other religions. The Catholic Church for example would agree with Robbie that sex is primarily a gift of love and so it is sinful outside the context of a marriage. The Church would agree that masturbation, pornography and fornication are wrong. The Church has no problem with disparity of cult (marrying someone ...[text shortened]... r breaking an engagement. Catholics also do wear a cross and own religious pictures and statues.

i am glad we agree on something at long last Conrau.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
haha, what a bunch of losers with a capital L, look at you, like a bunch of old women gossiping, oh did you hear this, oh did you here that. Get and a life and get over it, we are not you, you are not us, we have our own beliefs and practices, you have yours, we are trying to do Gods will, you are not, in fact, i challenge anyone of you to even tell the forum what the will of God is, that is how much spiritual discernment you people have!

To believe in His Son.

Originally posted by josephw
To believe in His Son.

the scriptures state that even the demons believe, belief is not the point Joseph.

(James 2:19) 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. . .

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
the scriptures state that even the demons believe, belief is not the point Joseph.

(James 2:19) 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. . .

John 6:29 - Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

I was thinking of the above verse when I replied.

But still, you are, whether you realise it or not, obfuscating. You have misapplied the verse you quoted by taking it out of it's context.

It is God's will that we believe in His Son.

Originally posted by josephw
John 6:29 - Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

I was thinking of the above verse when I replied.

But still, you are, whether you realise it or not, obfuscating. You have misapplied the verse you quoted by taking it out of it's context.

It is God's will that we believe in His Son.

no, its not taken out of context it was merely to show that there are entities which believe and yet they are not doing gods will, also consider this,

(Matthew 7:21-23) . . .“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness.

clearly there shall be many who believe, but as Christ states are not doing Gods will. you need to think of something other than mere belief Joseph, although belief, is as you have stated necessary.

Originally posted by Conrau K
Some of these rules are not so different from other religions. The Catholic Church for example would agree with Robbie that sex is primarily a gift of love and so it is sinful outside the context of a marriage. The Church would agree that masturbation, pornography and fornication are wrong. The Church however has no problem with disparity of cult (marrying ...[text shortened]... r breaking an engagement. Catholics also do wear a cross and own religious pictures and statues.

Some are but most of them are ridulous and have very little or no spiritual basis eg the restriction on the celebration of birthdays.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Some are but most of them are ridulous and have very little or no spiritual basis eg the restriction on the celebration of birthdays.

it has to do with conscience, is your conscience the same as ours? why should our conscience be judged by you? are you putting yourself in a position to judge our consciences? if so , who appointed you judge of our consciences?

(1 Corinthians 10:29-30) . . .For why should it be that my freedom is judged by another person’s conscience? If I am partaking with thanks, why am I to be spoken of abusively over that for which I give thanks?

i want to know, what gives you people the right to judge our consciences?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
it has to do with conscience, is your conscience the same as ours? why should our conscience be judged by you? are you putting yourself in a position to judge our consciences? if so , who appointed you judge of our consciences?

(1 Corinthians 10:29-30) . . .For why should it be that my freedom is judged by another person’s conscience? If I am partaking with thanks, why am I to be spoken of abusively over that for which I give thanks?

You are clearly missing a few screws in your head. You are free to celebrate birthdays or Christmas or free not to celerated if you so desire. Most Christians know that its a non-issue. Do it if you like. Dont do it if you dont like.

Some time ago we had a thread that dealt with birthdays and Christmans and its was both YOU and Galveston who said that those who celebrated birthdays and Christmas are following after Pagan customs and as such are comitting a sin.

Therefore its your position that you are appointed a judge of the rest of Christianity.

Originally posted by Rajk999
You are clearly missing a few screws in your head. You are free to celebrate birthdays or Christmas or free not to celerated if you so desire. Most Christians know that its a non-issue. Do it if you like. Dont do it if you dont like.

Some time ago we had a thread that dealt with birthdays and Christmans and its was both YOU and Galveston who said that tho ...[text shortened]... sin.

Therefore its your position that you are appointed a judge of the rest of Christianity.

answer the question, who appointed you to judge our consciences? my parents celebrate Christmas, thats up to them, they also celebrate birthdays, that's up to them, if i think its pagan, that's up to me, so answer the question, who appointed you to judge our consciences? and why should our freedom be judged by another conscience? therfore i shall ask it again, who appointed you to judge our conscience?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no, its not taken out of context it was merely to show that there are entities which believe and yet they are not doing gods will, also consider this,

(Matthew 7:21-23) . . .“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, [b]but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say ...[text shortened]... nk of something other than mere belief Joseph, although belief, is as you have stated necessary.[/b]

"haha, what a bunch of losers with a capital L, look at you, like a bunch of old women gossiping, oh did you hear this, oh did you here that. Get and a life and get over it, we are not you, you are not us, we have our own beliefs and practices, you have yours, we are trying to do Gods will, you are not, in fact, i challenge anyone of you to even tell the forum what the will of God is, that is how much spiritual discernment you people have!"

You're projecting. I simply replied to your challenge. The will of God is that we believe in His Son. Of course that isn't all inclusive, but it's the place to start.

You are taking those verses out of their context though. They have no application to this particular topic.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
answer the question, who appointed you to judge our consciences? my parents celebrate Christmas, thats up to them, they also celebrate birthdays, that's up to them, if i think its pagan, that's up to me, so answer the question, who appointed you to judge our consciences? and why should our freedom be judged by another conscience? therfore i shall ask it again, who appointed you to judge our conscience?

Who appointed you to judge our consciences? my parents celebrate Christmas, thats up to them, they also celebrate birthdays, that's up to them, if i think its not pagan, that's up to me, so answer the question, who appointed you to judge our consciences? and why should our freedom be judged by another conscience? therfore i shall ask it again, who appointed you to judge our conscience?