Originally posted by josephwno you have not stated what the will of God is, all you have stated is that belief may be necessary, they are not one and the same, sorry - Christ states that Gods will is done, those doing the will of the father etc etc, that is not the same as believing, one does not do belief, one has a belief, therefore it must be something else, you have not as yet answered the question and cannot claim the prize.
[b]"haha, what a bunch of losers with a capital L, look at you, like a bunch of old women gossiping, oh did you hear this, oh did you here that. Get and a life and get over it, we are not you, you are not us, we have our own beliefs and practices, you have yours, we are trying to do Gods will, you are not, in fact, i challenge anyone of you to even tell the ...[text shortened]... hose verses out of their context though. They have no application to this particular topic.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOkay. What is the first thing one needs to do to do the will of God?
no you have not stated what the will of God is, all you have stated is that belief may be necessary, they are not one and the same, sorry - Christ states that Gods will is done, those doing the will of the father etc etc, that is not the same as believing, one does not do belief, one has a belief, therefore it must be something else, you have not as yet answered the question and cannot claim the prize.
Mind you I'm just exploring. This isn't a challenge, except maybe to us both.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI'm not asking you to TELL me.
i am not telling you, you need to work it out for yourself! do a search on Gods will or something 🙂
I'm asking you to tell me what you believe is the first thing one needs to do in order to do the will of God.
What's the matter robbie? I answered your challenge to state what the will of God is by saying it is to believe in His Son.
Look. "God's will" is a broad subject. There's no way to have a meaningful discussion about it here.
I'm just curious about what you think one needs to do first to begin to do the will of God.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYour going to tell me that JW's don't preach AT people, visit, not listen to others far more than any other christian denomination or any other religon for that matter?
next time a Buddhist knocks on my door and sets himself on fire, i will tell him, sorry mate im not interested, go get a life! you wallow in prejudice and any claims that you make of open mindedness are frankly quite false, irrespective of what you claim. a hollow man issuing forth nothing but mocking tones, a clashing cymbal devoid of understanding.
Originally posted by josephwFirst thing to do is to get your linguistics right and make sure you know what the hell you are talking about. And the only one who can do that properly is you,(possibly with the help of others).
Okay. What is the first thing one needs to do to do the will of God?
Mind you I'm just exploring. This isn't a challenge, except maybe to us both.
Without a proper interpretation of what words mean there is no point on acting upon those words.
Originally posted by karoly aczelYou're a fine one to talk about linguistics.
First thing to do is to get your linguistics right and make sure you know what the hell you are talking about. And the only one who can do that properly is you,(possibly with the help of others).
Without a proper interpretation of what words mean there is no point on acting upon those words.
Originally posted by josephwI do try. I am honest.
You're a fine one to talk about linguistics.
And yes, I think I have to agree with you, I do have different meanings for words than say..you ,for example.
However I try to allign my words with their real meanings whereas as you seem to want to keep yourself separated from your creator.
Originally posted by karoly aczelYou hit the nail on the head.
I do try. I am honest.
And yes, I think I have to agree with you, I do have different meanings for words than say..you ,for example.
However I try to allign my words with their real meanings whereas as you seem to want to keep yourself separated from your creator.
The meanings of words has been deliberated for thousands of years. The acceptable definitions and meanings of words have been hashed out and put into books called dictionaries.
I use words with meanings already defined long before I arrived on the scene.
Like the ones I'm using now.
If we intend to communicate our ideas we must use words with universally accepted meanings. That's what communicators do.
But there are those who use words in a way that confound and confuse. They say things like "words have no meaning" or "words mean different things to different people". While there is an element of truth to all that, it serves no purpose not to know what we mean by the words we use. That's why there are dictionaries.
Originally posted by josephwLanguage is not static. It keeps changing and evolving to reflect society.
You hit the nail on the head.
The meanings of words has been deliberated for thousands of years. The acceptable definitions and meanings of words have been hashed out and put into books called dictionaries.
I use words with meanings already defined long before I arrived on the scene.
Like the ones I'm using now.
If we intend to communicate our i purpose not to know what we mean by the words we use. That's why there are dictionaries.
One of the major upcoming changes of words will be the word "human" .
I believe in the future the word "human" will be what would now be called something like "spiritually enightened person"
Other than that there are 'crossover' words like "androgynous". While this word was necessary to convey a certain meaning for a while in the future it will no longer be necessary and hence be wiped from our dictionaries.
Originally posted by karoly aczelI'm glad God never changes.
Language is not static. It keeps changing and evolving to reflect society.
One of the major upcoming changes of words will be the word "human" .
I believe in the future the word "human" will be what would now be called something like "spiritually enightened person"
Other than that there are 'crossover' words like "androgynous". While this word w ...[text shortened]... in the future it will no longer be necessary and hence be wiped from our dictionaries.