Originally posted by @secondsonLet me restate
You have a pinheaded perspective of scripture.
John 5:17,18
But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
¶ Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
Hebrews 1:1-3
God, who at sundry times and in divers manner ...[text shortened]... ower, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Where did JESUS say he was God.
17 Jun 18
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Originally posted by @fmfWithout pointing fingers at any denomination or people, how do you define a cult? Serious question because we have seen large numbers kill themselves due to someone. So how is a cult recognized?
I am not asking you whether you reckon the question is "moot". For what theological reasons do some Christians believe that Catholics will not be "saved"? Some go further and view the Catholic Church as a "Satanic" cult. What are their theological justifications for such a view?
17 Jun 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayA cult is only recognized when their beliefs lead them to do something that's practically stupid.
Without pointing fingers at any denomination or people, how do you define a cult? Serious question because we have seen large numbers kill themselves due to someone. So how is a cult recognized?
17 Jun 18
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemI am more of the opinion is that they start following a person and place him/her as the single source of truth.
A cult is only recognized when their beliefs lead them to do something that's practically stupid.
Originally posted by @rajk999Are you telling Suzianne to be quiet??
In like manner, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefastness and sobriety; not with braided hair, and gold or pearls or costly raiment; but (which becometh women professing godliness) through good works. Let a woman learn in quietness with all subjection. But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to [b]be in quietness. (1 Timothy 2:9-12 ASV)[/b]
Lol, this should be good.
Originally posted by @kellyjayFollowing someone other than Jesus Christ. would be more accurate
I am more of the opinion is that they start following a person and place him/her as the single source of truth.
Sonship has placed Witness Lee on a pedestal. that is a cult
JWs have done the same with Charles Russel
17 Jun 18
Originally posted by @rajk999If they put them above Christ and scripture I’d agree with you.
Following someone other than Jesus Christ. would be more accurate
Sonship has placed Witness Lee on a pedestal. that is a cult
JWs have done the same with Charles Russel
17 Jun 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayYou need to ask not me but those who view the Catholic Church as a "Satanic" cult.
Without pointing fingers at any denomination or people, how do you define a cult? Serious question because we have seen large numbers kill themselves due to someone. So how is a cult recognized?
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemDing, Ding. I think we have a winner here ! 😀
Denominational tribalism.
17 Jun 18
Catholics believe Mary lived a completely sinless life - Protestants disagree
Catholics believe Mary is part of the Godhead - Protestants disagree
Catholics believe Christ's work on the cross was insufficient and further efforts on our part are necessary for salvation - Protestants disagree
Catholics believe we should pray to Mary and the Saints - Protestants disagree
Catholics believe priests have the power to forgive sin - Protestants disagree
And on and on. Many Protestants believe Catholicism is the work of Satan and the Roman Catholic Church is the "whore of Babylon" spoken about in Revelation.
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18 Jun 18
Originally posted by @rajk999“To be saved according to them you have to profess faith alone. ”
The reason is simple. It the same reason why I get bashed here every day. Protestant Christians have a deep down hatred for anyone who speaks of good works and righteousness or following the commandments of Christ. Catholics are in that category. To be saved according to them you have to profess faith alone. Even speaking of works means you are insulting Christ ... apparently.
I don’t know where you get your information but good works were essential for salvation in my Catholic boyhood indoctrination. A difference might be that we were taught it was achievable for all of us.
