To our atheist friends

Originally posted by JS357
Not true. I said it is reasonable for someone to ask me to refrain. If there were a God, he/she would be someone.

ok, sorry for that, a misunderstanding, can i ask you why you think it is reasonable,
under the given circumstances.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
ok, sorry for that, a misunderstanding, can i ask you why you think it is reasonable,
under the given circumstances.

Again, ignoring my argument.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Again, ignoring my argument.

I have answered your questions fully and diligently, all you state is your opinions, you
never give any reason, you think this, you think that, you think religion controls
people, you think that it suppresses women, these are not reasons, they are opinions,
there is a difference.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Again, ignoring my argument.

this is addressed not to you, but to JS357

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
it doesn't need to be for you to have an opinion about them though, does it FMF, after
all, they are no more relevant to our atheist friends yet thy have opinions about them,
barbaric i think was the term.

You asked us what our opinions were. Now you are saying they are "irrelevant" because they are not the same as your beliefs and opinions.

Originally posted by FMF
You asked us what our opinions were. Now you are saying they are "irrelevant" because they are not the same as your beliefs and opinions.

yes i did ask you opinions were, but i was hoping that they might be substantiated with
reason, that is, other than, because i think so, or because i say they are. I dont mind if
they are different from the Bibles, i expected that. I have not said you should not do
this, or you should not do that, have I, so please try to be reasonable.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes i did ask you opinions were, but i was hoping that they might be substantiated with
reason, that is, other than, because i think so, or because i say they are.

Anyone reading this thread will be struck by the lengths to which you have gone to dodge discussing the responses of other posters. The only person who has come anywhere near offering "because i think so" as an 'argument', has, ironically, been you - when you asserted that homosexuality should be forbidden because your religion's literature "says so".

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
ok, sorry for that, a misunderstanding, can i ask you why you think it is reasonable,
under the given circumstances.

Why do I think it is reasonable to ask me to refrain from doing something? Because a reasonable way for them to let me know that they do not want me to do it, is to ask me not to do it. Of course they could also just say "I want you to refrain from doing that." That would be reasonable too, telling me what they want.

I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Are you using "ask" to mean something besides "to request"?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have answered your questions fully and diligently, all you state is your opinions, you
never give any reason, you think this, you think that, you think religion controls
people, you think that it suppresses women, these are not reasons, they are opinions,
there is a difference.

The fact that gays have genetic differences is not an opinion. The fact that certain religions actively suppress women is a fact, like in shiria law. Maybe you have not heard about the fact it is illegal for women to even be able to drive a car in Saudi Arabia, a country with some of the strictest shiria laws in the world, they in fact control the government, who made a deal with islamics decades ago to share power and that is only one result.

Originally posted by FMF
Anyone reading this thread will be struck by the lengths you have gone to dodge discussing the responses of other posters. The only person who has come anywhere near offering "because i think so" as an 'argument', has been you - when you asserted that homosexuality should be forbidden because your religion's literature "says so".

yes, but you have failed to grasp, that it was not about whether homosexuality was
legitimate or otherwise, but whether it was reasonable for God to ask the Israelites to
desist from it and other sexual practices. It was not I who proceeded to plunge the
argument into another bible v homosexuality, was it. I was merely trying to ascertain
whether Gods Laws were reasonable and it seems that I have been vindicated in view
of the lack of any substantiated reason to the contrary, other than privacy issues
and freedom issues, reflected in the opinions of some posters, only JS35 thought it was
reasonable, but has not stated why. Hopefully he will. Anyhow, its late 5:22 Am and i
need to sleep, goodnight or morning or afternoon as the case may be.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes i did ask you opinions were, but i was hoping that they might be substantiated with
reason, that is, other than, because i think so, or because i say they are. I dont mind if
they are different from the Bibles, i expected that. I have not said you should not do
this, or you should not do that, have I, so please try to be reasonable.

I give you answers that are from the Holy Bible and you will still
not accept them because they disagree with what your god, the
Watchtower Society, tells you.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I give you answers that are from the Holy Bible and you will still
not accept them because they disagree with what your god, the
Watchtower Society, tells you.

I love it when christians fight.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I give you answers that are from the Holy Bible and you will still
not accept them because they disagree with what your god, the
Watchtower Society, tells you.

you give nothing but jive turkey!

Originally posted by sonhouse
I love it when christians fight.

hes not a Christian, he's a machine gun preacher!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
hes not a Christian, he's a machine gun preacher!

It is clear he thinks he is a christian. I think so do you. I love it when christians fight. They then have less ammo to fight off rationality.