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    Apologetics aimed at the theologically trained, concerning the ministry of Watchman Nee and Witness Lee.

    Contending For the Faith

    https://contendingforthefaith.org/en/
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    And not forgetting this pearl of wisdom:

    "The sun signifies Christ...the moon can be considered a figure of the church, the wife of Christ...the stars first signify Christ…although Christ is the real sun, He does not appear as the sun during the present age of night. Rather, He shines as the bright Morning Star."

    (The Recovery Version: Footnotes of Genesis)
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    Not forgetting some positive endorsements of the footnotes to the RcV. That including world renown New Testament translator and scholar F.F. Bruce.

    https://www.recoveryversion.bible/comments.html
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    Copied without permission from https://shepherdingwords.com/

    To those who know the Bible and church history, it should come as no surprise that the Lord’s servants are slandered. The Jewish religionists called the Lord Himself “Beelzebul,” and He warned His disciples that they too would be vilified (Matt. 10:25). Paul was reviled and defamed, considered “as the offscouring of the world, the scum of all things” (1 Cor. 4:12-13). Evil reports were spread about him, and he was called a deceiver, even though he was true (2 Cor. 6:8). Paul told his co-worker Timothy that “all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted” (2 Tim. 3:12). The pages of history are stained with the blood of countless Christian martyrs. Those raised up by the Lord to advance the recovery of the truth and practice of the Christian life and the church life—such as Hus, Wycliffe, Tyndale, Luther, Zwingli, Whitefield, the Wesleys, and so many more—have been opposed by religious zealots and smeared by malicious falsehoods.
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    The pinnacle of course of Lee's work:

    'The Lord is not building His church in Christendom, which is composed of the apostate Roman Catholic Church and the Protestant denominations. This...is being fulfilled through the Lord's recovery, in which the building of the genuine church is being accomplished...Roman Catholicism and Protestantism, as well as Judaism, all [have] become an organization of Satan.'
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    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Take it over to the thread on Revelation 14.

    "And another angel, a second one, followed, saying, Fallen, fallen is Babylon the Great, who has made all the nations drink of the wine of the fury of her fornication!" (Rev. 14:6)

    God judges something in the end times which has made all the nations drunk with the wine of the fury of her fornication.

    What does this stand for?
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    @sonship said
    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Take it over to the thread on Revelation 14.

    "And another angel, a second one, followed, saying, Fallen, fallen is Babylon the Great, who has made all the nations drink of the wine of the fury of her fornication!" (Rev. 14:6)

    God judges something in the end times which has made all the nations drunk with the wine of the fury of her fornication.

    What does this stand for?
    That Christianity was now an organization of Satan?
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    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    The effective way to interpret "Babylon the Great" in Revelation 13,14,17,18 in terms of Christians in the New Testament is to carefully consider it in comparison to Babylon and the Babylonian Captivity of Israel in the Old Testament.

    That is why the sign is used - to show the spiritual parallel. The idolatry, the mixture carrying away God's people into a foreign captivity from which they need to be recovered back to their own land.

    Interpretation of "Babylon the Great" of Revelation should be done carefully. A trite answer tempts some to make broad brushed generalizations.

    For your purposes a simple "Yes" is all you want. You have so far proved unable to do anything but exploit a simple answer for your agenda to mock "Witness Lee's wisdom".
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    @sonship said
    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    The effective way to interpret "Babylon the Great" in Revelation 13,14,17,18 in terms of Christians in the New Testament is to carefully consider it in comparison to Babylon and the Babylonian Captivity of Israel in the Old Testament.

    That is why the sign is used - to show the spiritual parallel. The idolatry, the mixture carryin ...[text shortened]... ed unable to do anything but exploit a simple answer for your agenda to mock "Witness Lee's wisdom".
    Sorry sonship, but you continue to support a charlatan who condemns your Christian brothers and sisters to satan.
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    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Don't be sorry to me. You're the one who is sorry - a sorry case of unteachable blind ignorance.

    And no, I don't want to discuss you or discuss it [again] with you.
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    @sonship said
    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Don't be sorry to me. You're the one who is sorry - a sorry case of unteachable blind ignorance.

    And no, I don't want to discuss you or discuss it [again] with you.
    Great, then get out of the thread created to discuss the Witness Lee, unfiltered through your eyes.
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    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Get out of the thread or stay and continue your nonsense.

    Just about the same. All you are doing is encouraging curious people to look into whoever this fellow is - Witness Lee.

    www.ministrybooks.org
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    @sonship said
    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Get out of the thread or stay and continue your nonsense.

    Just about the same. All you are doing is encouraging curious people to look into whoever this fellow is - Witness Lee.

    www.ministrybooks.org
    Until this thread was created, most people were only aware of the Witness Lee you presented. Following this thread, readers are aware that he thought Protestants and Catholics were in an organization of Satan.

    This thread hasn't been good for Lee.
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    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Some people say Paul being in prison was not good for Paul.

    A sufficient number of Christians know better.

    www.ministrybooks.org
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    Just a few titles of rich books for ALL CHRISTIANS from messages given by Witness Lee

    Calling on the Name of the Lord
    Central Line of the Divine Revelation, The
    Central Thought of God, The
    Central Vision for Serving the Church, The
    Central Work of God and Proper Spiritual Experience, The
    Centrality and Universality of Christ, The
    Changing Death into Life
    Character
    Christ and the Church Revealed and Typified in the Psalms
    Christ and the Cross
    Christ as the Content of the Church and the Church as the Expression of Christ
    Christ as the Reality
    Christ as the Spirit in the Epistles
    Christ Being the Burden of the Gospel
    Christ in His Excellency
    Christ is God
    Christ Making His Home in Our Heart and the Building Up of the Church
    Christ our Portion
    Christ Revealed in the New Testament
    Christ versus Religion
    Christian Life, The
    Church as the Body of Christ, The
    Church Life in the Lord's Recovery Today, The
    Church—the Reprint of the Spirit, The
    Completing Ministry of Paul, The
    Concerning How to Be Useful to the Lord
    Concerning the Lord's Recovery
    Concerning the Person of Christ
    Concerning the Triune God—the Father, the Son, and the Spirit


    Some more in the G section - (SO many rich books!)

    Genuine Church, A
    Genuine Ground of Oneness, The
    Glad Tidings to Fallen Man
    Glorious Vision and the Way of the Cross, The
    God of Resurrection, The
    God Who Hides Himself, A
    God's Eternal Intention and Satan's Counterplot
    God's Intention Concerning Christ and the Church
    God's Need and God's Goal
    God's New Testament Economy
    God's Plan concerning the Church
    God's Purpose for the Church
    God's Salvation in Life
    God's Way in Life
    God, Education and Character
    God-man Living, The
    God-men, The
    God-ordained Way and the Eldership, The
    God-ordained Way to Practice the New Testament Economy, The
    Gospel of God, The (booklet)
    Gospel Outlines
    Governing and Controlling Vision in the Bible, The
    Great Mystery—Christ and the Church, The
    Greatest Prophecy in the Bible and Its Fulfillment, The
    Ground of the Church and the Meetings of the Church, The
    Ground of the Church and the Service of the Body, The
    Ground of the Church, The
    Guidelines for the Lord's Table Meeting and the Pursuit in Life
    Guidelines for the Propagation of the Lord's Recovery


    See www.ministrybooks.org
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