The sonship era is over

@divegeester

You mean how contraception is murder but capital punishment isn’t? Ain’t touching that one with a barge pole!

@moonbus said
@divegeester

You mean how contraception is murder but capital punishment isn’t? Ain’t touching that one with a barge pole!

Neither is Kellyjay, at least not with any integrity.

@divegeester

I reckon it’ll be something or other to do w freewill. The murderer committed a heinous act of his own freewill, so that’s why he deserves to be executed and promoted to eternal torture as soon as feasible, to extend his agony. Whereas a zygote is relatively innocent (compared to a murderer), and deserves at least a chance to be born and repent. Yeah. Something like that, I reckon.

@moonbus said
@divegeester

I reckon it’ll be something or other to do w freewill. The murderer committed a heinous act of his own freewill, so that’s why he deserves to be executed and promoted to eternal torture as soon as feasible, to extend his agony. Whereas a zygote is relatively innocent (compared to a murderer), and deserves at least a chance to be born and repent. Yeah. Something like that, I reckon.

Maybe, but that doesn’t sit with KellyJay’s other defences about preventing abortions.

In the thread “abortion for salvation” he asserts that an unborn child still has its life to live and may well come to salvation before dying and ending up meeting Jesus in hell and him burning him alive.

So what about someone on death row,? Executing them sends them straight to Jesus for external deep frying in a lake lava! Surely this person is a potential child of God and Jesus may want to save them?

The contradiction is driven by upbringing, politics and rote learning beliefs and mimicking attitudes from the right wing Christian churches in America.

Kellyjay refuses to address this contradiction and had gotten upset with me and flounced off.

@divegeester

Oh dear. Pushed him outside his cognitive comfort zone, did you? Maybe that’s what happened to @sonship, too.

@moonbus said
@divegeester
Pushed him outside his cognitive comfort zone, did you?

I’d say it was outside of his integrity zone.

@moonbus said
Oh dear. Pushed him outside his cognitive comfort zone, did you? Maybe that’s what happened to @sonship, too.

To be fair to sonship, I think he may have reached the conclusion that talking to Ghost of a Duke, Rajk999, divegeester and me [and one or two others] was simply not worth the rather indefatigable and meticulous efforts he always made in conducting his ministry. He once made it apparent he thought "hundreds" of people were reading his posts here. That question came up a few months ago. I imagine that illusion finally disappeared, then his appetite disappeared too.

@fmf said
To be fair to sonship, I think he may have reached the conclusion that talking to Ghost of a Duke, Rajk999, divegeester and me [and one or two others] was simply not worth the rather indefatigable and meticulous efforts he always made in conducting his ministry. He once made it apparent he thought "hundreds" of people were reading his posts here. That question came up a few months ago. I imagine that illusion finally disappeared, then his appetite disappeared too.

I think the final straw for him was when even his loyal supporters also condemned many of his false doctrines.

@rajk999 said
I think the final straw for him was when even his loyal supporters also condemned many of his false doctrines.

If you're Saint Sonship The Godman and EVEN the ludicrous sycophant josephw has felt the need to push back, you can read the writing on the wall!

@fmf said
If you're Saint Sonship The Godman and EVEN the ludicrous sycophant josephw has felt the need to push back, you can read the writing on the wall!

Exactly,, and not only josephw, a couple others as well. I think that is what shocked him the most.

@rajk999 said
I think the final straw for him was when even his loyal supporters also condemned many of his false doctrines.

Much of the straw that led up to that final straw was, to a great strawly extent, you breaking his balls day in and day out.

@rajk999 said
I think the final straw for him was when even his loyal supporters also condemned many of his false doctrines.

He had loyal supporters? I musta missed that.

@fmf said
To be fair to sonship, I think he may have reached the conclusion that talking to Ghost of a Duke, Rajk999, divegeester and me [and one or two others] was simply not worth the rather indefatigable and meticulous efforts he always made in conducting his ministry. He once made it apparent he thought "hundreds" of people were reading his posts here. That question came up a few months ago. I imagine that illusion finally disappeared, then his appetite disappeared too.

Hundreds of silent readers? Not a chance. Six, on a busy day seven tops, but on some days he was murmuring only to himself.

@moonbus said
He had loyal supporters? I musta missed that.

sonship had the "tacit consent" of the likes of Suzianne - who incessantly trolled anyone who disagreed with him - and KellyJay whose discursive 'courage' never seemed to stretch to even the meekest gestures of dissent.

@fmf said
sonship had the "tacit consent" of the likes of Suzianne - who incessantly trolled anyone who disagreed with him - and KellyJay whose discursive 'courage' never seemed to stretch to even the meekest gestures of dissent.

Well, compared to you, Goad, BigDogg, and myself, sonship at least believed in the God of Abraham, so one can see why KJ and some others tried to keep him in the fold.