09 Feb 13
Originally posted by avalanchethecatClinical experience and scientific research show that regardless of age, homosexual forms of sexual gratification place individuals at significantly greater risk for experiencing a number of physical and psychological health problems - some of which are life-threatening - as compared with individuals who engage in typical heterosexual behaviors.
No evidence has been presented to indicate that fisting is more prevalent among homosexuals than heterosexuals, therefore this data is irrelevant.
Health Risks: Fisting and other Homosexual Practices
Michelle A. Cretella, MD
American College of Pediatricians
Philip M. Sutton, PhD, LMFT, LP
Editor, Journal of Human Sexuality
http://www.narth.com/docs/healthrisks.html
09 Feb 13
Originally posted by avalanchethecatpure conjecture, please try to stick to empirical data.
But the loneliness consequent to avoiding homosexual behaviour may be more harmful than the homosexual behaviour itself. Your 'kindness', should it be acted upon, may in fact be causing more harm than it's preventing.
09 Feb 13
Originally posted by stellspalfiethis debate is not about me, i have told you time and again, why you are unable to distinguish between me and the arguments that are being presented, i have no idea.
i hope you and rj can see the irony of two christians telling an atheist that playing to win is more important than integrity.
[b] the only way a lie becomes truth is if you chose to believe it.
exactly! this sentence sums you up better than anything ive ever seen on this forum.[/b]
09 Feb 13
Fisting can cause laceration or perforation of the vagina, perineum, rectum, and/or colon, resulting in serious injury and even death. In general, sexual activities that cause air to enter the vagina can lead to a fatal air embolism, and the risk is probably even higher during pregnancy.
From the ultimate internet authority -- Wikipedia 😏
09 Feb 13
Originally posted by Rank outsiderits not about me.
You constantly stress about people posting what you consider are untruths about JWs that they have sourced from the web.
Yet you are happy to post untruths about gay people that you have sourced from the web.
A double standard surely?
09 Feb 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThis doesn't show that fisting is more prevalent within homosexual relationships than within heterosexual relationships. It simply shows that fisting itself is risky behaviour.
Clinical experience and scientific research show that regardless of age, homosexual forms of sexual gratification place individuals at significantly greater risk for experiencing a number of physical and psychological health problems - some of which are life-threatening - as compared with individuals who engage in typical heterosexual behaviors.
H ...[text shortened]... PhD, LMFT, LP
Editor, Journal of Human Sexuality
http://www.narth.com/docs/healthrisks.html
09 Feb 13
Originally posted by avalanchethecatOn the contrary, its intimated that fisting is a typical homosexual behavior in contrast to a typical heterosexual behavior. By its very nature it seems somewhat apparent that fisting would be more prominent among homosexuals.
This doesn't show that fisting is more prevalent within homosexual relationships than within heterosexual relationships. It simply shows that fisting itself is risky behaviour.
09 Feb 13
Originally posted by avalanchethecatI have stated nothing about their legitimacy or otherwise, i have no way of knowing whether they are legitimate or not, perhaps you do?
The glaring flaws in the data have already been pointed out. That you refuse to acknowledge those obvious flaws is, of course, typical of your style of argument.
09 Feb 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt does imply this, but it does so on the basis of obviously flawed data collection, as has already been pointed out, combined with the clear prejudices of the writer and the religious website posting the report. That you conclude that fisting would seem more prominent among homosexuals speaks more of your prejudices than of the real nature of human sexuality.
On the contrary, its intimated that fisting is a typical homosexual behavior in contrast to a typical heterosexual behavior. By its very nature it seems somewhat apparent that fisting would be more prominent among homosexuals.
09 Feb 13
Originally posted by avalanchethecatfirst of all its not about me and secondly what flawed data are you referring to?
It does imply this, but it does so on the basis of obviously flawed data collection, as has already been pointed out, combined with the clear prejudices of the writer and the religious website posting the report. That you conclude that fisting would seem more prominent among homosexuals speaks more of your prejudices than of the real nature of human sexuality.
10 Feb 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobiePrecisely my point. You are unable to verify the legitimacy of the data, and yet you persist in considering it relevant. I might equally quote a study I myself have made whereby 50% of heterosexual couples questioned admitted that hard drugs and fisting played a part in 'lovemaking' whereas 100% of homosexuals questioned insisted that their congress comprised only mutual masturbation with the use of condoms.
I have stated nothing about their legitimacy or otherwise, i have no way of knowing whether they are legitimate or not, perhaps you do?