The Health Risks of Gay Sex

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
dont hate the player, hate the game, i did not make up those statistics.

you seem happy enough to use a site like that to prove a point, do your morals go out of the window when it comes to winning the 'game'. i wouldnt pull stats of an extreme anti-christian site to win a debate, truth and integrity are way more important.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
you seem happy enough to use a site like that to prove a point, do your morals go out of the window when it comes to winning the 'game'. i wouldnt pull stats of an extreme anti-christian site to win a debate, truth and integrity are way more important.

No wonder you are not good at winning debates. 😏

Originally posted by stellspalfie
you seem happy enough to use a site like that to prove a point, do your morals go out of the window when it comes to winning the 'game'. i wouldnt pull stats of an extreme anti-christian site to win a debate, truth and integrity are way more important.

you play to win the game, you just dont play to play! you wouldn't pull a statistic from an extreme anti Christine site, but others would, FMF , divesgeester do it all the time, citing ex-witness etc etc, i get it all the time on the blood issue, you would let your kid die etc etc etc its nada, the only way a lie becomes truth is if you chose to believe it. The fact is that 'fisting ', as apart of homosexual sexual behavior, is dangerous, to what extent that its practised remains a matter of conjecture.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
making it up? i dont know how the get their statistics, do you? I have no idea what the percentage might be, do you?

If I were to say that 15% of Jehovahs Witnesses rape their children, would you say my views were legitimate?

Happy for me to post this round the web?

Do you know what the correct percentage is?

See how nonsensical your position is?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you play to win the game, you just dont play to play! you wouldn't pull a statistic from an extreme anti Christine site, but others would, FMF , divesgeester do it all the time, citing ex-witness etc etc, i get it all the time on the blood issue, you ould let your kid die etc etc etc its nada, the only way a lie become truth is if you chose to belie ...[text shortened]... t its practised remains a matter of conjecture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLlIdZikDk

And you have chosen to believe serveral lies from the Watchtower Society. Its a shame. 😳

Originally posted by Rank outsider
If I were to say that 15% of Jehovahs Witnesses rape their children, would you say my views were legitimate?

Happy for me to post this round the web?

the only way for a lie to become truth is if you chose to believe it (the Karate Kid) , go ahead, its nada. Your views of course are not legitimate but its your business if you want to post stuff, i would not stress over it.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
the only way for a lie to become truth is if you chose to believe it (the Karate Kid) , go ahead, its nada. Your views of course are not legitimate but its your business if you want to post stuff, i would not stress over it.

Your decision to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses will have a tremendous impact on the rest of your life. All of your beliefs about God and his kingdom will be dictated to you by an organization known as the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. If you choose to believe differently than the Society teaches, you will be guilty of "independent thinking," and will face devastating consequences.


Most importantly, you will not be taught the gospel of the bible. Your new gospel, or good news, will be that Jesus Christ returned to power in 1914 and established his heavenly kingdom. Your new gospel will involve telling people about current world problems and conditions, and how these conditions will eventually culminate with the coming of Armageddon. And finally, your new gospel will consist of telling people that the Watchtower Society is God's only mouthpiece, and that they must obey everything the Society teaches in order to survive Armageddon.

http://www.spiritwatch.org/whajwwon.htm

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you play to win the game , you just dont play to play! you wouldn't pull a statistic from an extreme anti Christine site, but others would, FMF , divesgeester do it all the time, citing ex-witness etc etc, i get it all the time on the blood issue, you would let your kid die etc etc etc its nada, the only way a lie becomes truth is if you chose to be ...[text shortened]... t its practised remains a matter of conjecture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLlIdZikDk

Nobody in this thread, as far as I remember, said that fisting wasn't dangerous. Interesting that you are arguing a point no one has been making.

As a Christian, is your view that, if someone wrongs you, you are allowed to do the same to someone else who hasn't?

Not that I think your comments about FMF and divegeester are correct, but that is an amazing justification for using those tactics here.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you play to win the game, you just dont play to play! you wouldn't pull a statistic from an extreme anti Christine site, but others would, FMF , divesgeester do it all the time, citing ex-witness etc etc, i get it all the time on the blood issue, you would let your kid die etc etc etc its nada, the only way a lie becomes truth is if you chose to bel ...[text shortened]... t its practised remains a matter of conjecture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLlIdZikDk

i hope you and rj can see the irony of two christians telling an atheist that playing to win is more important than integrity.


the only way a lie becomes truth is if you chose to believe it.

exactly! this sentence sums you up better than anything ive ever seen on this forum.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
on the contrary, it is a kindness to point out that something is harmful and should be avoided, yes loneliness is a terrible thing, never the less.

But the loneliness consequent to avoiding homosexual behaviour may be more harmful than the homosexual behaviour itself. Your 'kindness', should it be acted upon, may in fact be causing more harm than it's preventing.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
the only way for a lie to become truth is if you chose to believe it (the Karate Kid) , go ahead, its nada. Your views of course are not legitimate but its your business if you want to post stuff, i would not stress over it.

You constantly stress about people posting what you consider are untruths about JWs that they have sourced from the web.

Yet you are happy to post untruths about gay people that you have sourced from the web.

A double standard surely?

Originally posted by Rank outsider
Nobody in this thread, as far as I remember, said that fisting wasn't dangerous. Interesting that you are arguing a point no one has been making.

As a Christian, is your view that, if someone wrongs you, you are allowed to do the same to someone else who hasn't?

Not that I think your comments about FMF and divegeester are correct, but that is an amazing justification for using those tactics here.

its dangerous , good we have established that its dangerous. Your original objection was with the statistics, for various reasons which you cited, the source ( a pornography magazine) the date (twenty years ago) etc etc I continually asked if you had any evidence to the contrary, you produced nothing. I therefore, out of curiosity , tried to find some other references of data, and cited them, Thats not a tactic, its not intended for any other reason than providing an alternative source of data. How they complied the data, i have no idea, nor of whether the figures are legitimate, but its all i could find, try for yourself, its not that easy.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you play to win the game, you just dont play to play! you wouldn't pull a statistic from an extreme anti Christine site, but others would, FMF , divesgeester do it all the time, citing ex-witness etc etc, i get it all the time on the blood issue, you would let your kid die etc etc etc its nada, the only way a lie becomes truth is if you chose to bel ...[text shortened]... t its practised remains a matter of conjecture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLlIdZikDk

No evidence has been presented to indicate that fisting is more prevalent among homosexuals than heterosexuals, therefore this data is irrelevant.

Originally posted by Rank outsider
You constantly stress about people posting what you consider are untruths about JWs that they have sourced from the web.

Yet you are happy to post untruths about gay people that you have sourced from the web.

A double standard surely?

they are not my untruths, i merely cited them as an alternative source of data, i have not said that they are legitimate, nor exhaustive, nor representative, they are what they are, an alternative source of data.

Originally posted by Rank outsider
Nobody in this thread, as far as I remember, said that fisting wasn't dangerous. Interesting that you are arguing a point no one has been making.

As a Christian, is your view that, if someone wrongs you, you are allowed to do the same to someone else who hasn't?

Not that I think your comments about FMF and divegeester are correct, but that is an amazing justification for using those tactics here.

Sometimes it is necessary to fight fire with fire. If you are in a war and you are being fired upon, it would be prudent to try to take cover and fire back. 😏