19 Jul 21
@avalanchethecat saidSo it is ok for you to be condescending, but not him. If you say so.
Condescension in argument is to be expected. Not a good teaching style, however.
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19 Jul 21
@eladar saidOh now, don't hide your light under a bushel with prickly splinters. 😉
So it is ok for you to be condescending, but not him. If you say so.
19 Jul 21
@kevin-eleven saidMatthew 7:6
Oh now, don't hide your light under a bushel with prickly splinters. 😉
Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces
---This is why I do not bother with people here. Anyone who claims to be a Christian should heed Jesus' words.
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@eladar saidI believe that ideally the Christian viewpoint would be unaware of or at least unaffected by any perceived condescension.
So it is ok for you to be condescending, but not him. If you say so.
Once one has recognized one's Cosmic provenance and has relaxed into the Cosmic Christ with the help of the Holy Spirit, a lot of the little noises of Earth don't matter much anymore (well, this is my understanding so far).
Of course, after that condition has occurred, it's better not to display a superior attitude, but instead a kindly, understanding, accepting, and sympathetic one -- but the choice to be made is not between attitudes to be displayed, but to allow a transformation to occur so that the kinder attitude becomes second nature.
Hoping I'm on the right path here. Just riffing on some Christian themes while not quite self-identifying as Christian.
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19 Jul 21
@eladar saidOK, I'll have a look.
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See my earlier post to see what Jesus thought.
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19 Jul 21
@eladar saidDear Eladar, I looked through all four pages and this seems to be the post you meant for me to look at.
Matthew 7:6
Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces
---This is why I do not bother with people here. Anyone who claims to be a Christian should heed Jesus' words.
I do understand what you mean, and I do understand what He meant by that.
Sincere seekers know that the Holy is not to be given or dispensed but is omnipresent, and if any lack of the Holy or distance between us and the Holy is perceived, that probably has to do with our lack of seeking or trying to commune with It, and perhaps because we maintain ego boundaries past the point where they are necessary or beneficial.
What do you think? Would you say that you have undergone a spiritual transformation as opposed to just learning some rules to follow?
19 Jul 21
@kevin-eleven saidI would say? Read Jesus' words From Matthew 7
Dear Eladar, I looked through all four pages and this seems to be the post you meant for me to look at.
I do understand what you mean, and I do understand what He meant by that.
Sincere seekers know that the Holy is not to be given or dispensed but is omnipresent, and if any lack of the Holy or distance between us and the Holy is perceived, that probably has to do ...[text shortened]... that you have undergone a spiritual transformation as opposed to just learning some rules to follow?
“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is constricted that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
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@sonship saidThank you for writing that. We do agree on some things.
Many people think of salvation as just being taken to a happy place.
God's purpose is to transform sinners into sons of God. That is He saves in order to conform you to the image of the Son of God.
Its like God and fallen sinners are incompatible. And He doesn't change. So it we as fallen sinners are incompatible with God who longs for us to share with Him eternit ...[text shortened]... ication of the Son of God that He may have billions of brothers for a mass production of of God-men.
I have observed that some "Christians" only seem to be in it for the selfish prize of eternal life*, while completely disregarding the very important aspect of transformation.
As for me, maybe I'm taking the long way home. 😉
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* or scoring points with Scripture grenades 😉
19 Jul 21
@avalanchethecat saidJust pointing out your hypocrisy and your self appointed special position. Your double standard speaks for itself.
I'm not sure if you actually miss the point I was making or if you're just trying to sound clever, so I'll just say ok and smile.
🙂
19 Jul 21
@eladar saidAh, so you have definitely missed the point I was trying to make AND you are trying to sound clever. In that case, I'll take back the smile.
Just pointing out your hypocrisy and your self appointed special position. Your double standard speaks for itself.
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19 Jul 21
@avalanchethecat saidI might still have some Feline Greenies that I bought for my poor dead kitty a couple years ago, in case you need a pick-me-up.
Ah, so you have definitely missed the point I was trying to make AND you are trying to sound clever. In that case, I'll take back the smile.
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19 Jul 21
@eladar saidThe light of the Sublime fills all of time and space, and does not jab or wrangle.
Just pointing out your hypocrisy and your self appointed special position. Your double standard speaks for itself.