Is the trinity taught in the bible?

Originally posted by divegeester
I admit I don't read all of your posts, in fact I rarely read any of them.
What is this awesomely important point that you think I'm dodging?

My point was in the post you replied to.

Don't worry about it. Keep deflecting, but everyone knows your belief is near exact to the trinity, you just chose to assign a different name to it. But it's trinity.

Originally posted by divegeester
He can't even make up his mind if he's a Christian or not.

Well that's alright, I think we all may have gone back and forth on that one. I know have.

Originally posted by leunammi
Jesus is absolutely, 100% percent sure who he was/is and his identity, he has given us the whole story, you just choose not to believe it.

Don't take my word for it, step out in faith and seek after God, not the opinions of those in a chess forum, they are varied and confusing. If you are truly seeking God, he will meet you and you will be left with no doubt. But you need to step out.

I asked you for proof.
Can you provide it?

Originally posted by leunammi
Much has been said in this forum from what I have noticed regarding churches and what they 'make' you believe. I have been going to church on and off for many years, AOG, Vineyard, other non-denominations and not once was I ever told I had to believe in the trinity or I would burn in hell, you guys embellish and dont know what you are talking about. Does ...[text shortened]... hether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

It's simple.

Ok I challenge you to test your theory. Seriously go to your church leader and tell him you don't believe the trinity and you don't believe it is necessary to gain life but you still want to active in your church. Give it a try....

Originally posted by leunammi
Jesus is absolutely, 100% percent sure who he was/is and his identity, he has given us the whole story, you just choose not to believe it.

Don't take my word for it, step out in faith and seek after God, not the opinions of those in a chess forum, they are varied and confusing. If you are truly seeking God, he will meet you and you will be left with no doubt. But you need to step out.

The opinions on this chess forum are no different than those in the 'real world'. Most have doubt and confusion.

By the way, why are you assuming that God cannot work through this chess site? There could be many readers who pick up a Bible due to reading someone's post, and who continue to read their Bible because of it.

I see no reason why you should minimize a medium in which God is discussed.

Originally posted by chaney3
It is you who is the punchline.

You ignored the contents of my post, which involved God and Jesus. I did not feel it necessary at that time to include the Holy Spirit. Instead of commenting on my point, you merely looked for a reason to tell a usual dumb joke. I'm surprised you couldn't find a way to include cheese as you usually do.

Your arrogance is noted.

Your post had the consistency of Gorgonzola.

(That's a kind of cheese).

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Your post had the consistency of Gorgonzola.

(That's a kind of cheese).

You couldn't resist, could you? 🙂

Originally posted by leunammi
Chaney3

Jesus is God!
Revelation 1:8 King James Version (KJV)

8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

That is Jesus' words.

Actually this is not Jesus speaking, it is his Father Jehovah.

Here are some references to this:

Alpha and Omega (‎75 occurrences)
"While many apply this title both to God and to Christ, a more careful examination of its use restricts its application to Jehovah God. ... The first verse of Revelation shows that the revelation was given originally by God and through Jesus Christ, hence the one speaking (through an angelic representative) at times is God himself, and at other times it is Christ Jesus."

"The title “the Alpha and the Omega” applies to Jehovah, stressing that there was no almighty God before him and that there will be none after him. He is “the beginning and the end.” (Rev. 21:6; 22:13) Although Jehovah is referred to as “the first and the last” at Revelation 22:13, in that there is none before or after him, the context in the first chapter of Revelation shows that the title “the First and the Last” there applies to Jesus Christ in another sense. He was the first human to be resurrected to immortal spirit life and the last one to be so resurrected by Jehovah personally.—Col. 1:18."

But if you go back and read Rev 1: 8-11 you will see it is actually speaking of two beings both Jesus and his Father Jehovah by John.

Also Jesus is never refereed to as "Almighty God" anywhere in the bible.

Originally posted by chaney3
The opinions on this chess forum are no different than those in the 'real world'. Most have doubt and confusion.

By the way, why are you assuming that God cannot work through this chess site? There could be many readers who pick up a Bible due to reading someone's post, and who continue to read their Bible because of it.

I see no reason why you should minimize a medium in which God is discussed.

I am not assuming God cannot work through a chess site, and i am minimizing nothing, I know God can and does work things like a chess forum. You just seem to be asking the same questions and getting the same answers. By nature of the medium, I think this forum can serve to feed you milk but getting the meat will require work from you, you can only be spoon fed for so long.

Originally posted by galveston75
Ok I challenge you to test your theory. Seriously go to your church leader and tell him you don't believe the trinity and you don't believe it is necessary to gain life but you still want to active in your church. Give it a try....

I think I am going to pass and defer to my previous comments on this, my experience is as I have stated.

Originally posted by chaney3
I asked you for proof.
Can you provide it?

My 'proof' is only going to be what is stated in the bible. I as well as others have provided scriptures to the fact in many different theeads.

Originally posted by leunammi
I am not assuming God cannot work through a chess site, and i am minimizing nothing, I know God can and does work things like a chess forum. You just seem to be asking the same questions and getting the same answers. By nature of the medium, I think this forum can serve to feed you milk but getting the meat will require work from you, you can only be spoon fed for so long.

Why do you assume that I don't seek elsewhere? I do, and still get varied opinions about the 'same issue', the trinity.

There is no proof, only opinions based on individual interpretation of scripture, in which Jesus was never clear about His identity.

Except......when He prayed to someone different than Himself. The countless times He referred to God as Father, someone different than Himself. Talking to God from the garden and the cross, someone different than Himself, etc etc.

Unless you can provide real proof, you are likely twisting His unclear words in the Bible to 'fit' what you 'want' to believe, and NOT what He said.

Originally posted by chaney3
Why do you assume that I don't seek elsewhere? I do, and still get varied opinions about the 'same issue', the trinity.

There is no proof, only opinions based on individual interpretation of scripture, in which Jesus was never clear about His identity.

Except......when He prayed to someone different than Himself. The countless times He referred to Go ...[text shortened]... isting His unclear words in the Bible to 'fit' what you 'want' to believe, and NOT what He said.

So be it.

Originally posted by leunammi
So be it.

Why are you giving up?

I am asking for a Bible verse that proves Jesus is God.....without having to 'assume' what He may have meant.....something clear.

My guess is that you realize you cannot, and would rather avoid the obvious problem.

"Lord, show us the Father, and we will be satisfied."

Jesus replied, "Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and yet you still don't know who I am? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father! So why are you asking me to show him to you?"