@rbhillsaid Maybe??
2 Chronicles 7:13-15 New International Version (NIV)
13 “When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command locusts to devour the land or send a plague among my people, 14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin ...[text shortened]... their land. 15 Now my eyes will be open and my ears attentive to the prayers offered in this place.
As a Christian myself, the problem I have with other Christians quoting scriptures like this, is why does an invisible and ostensibly absent (from the perspective of unbelievers) God need to be so angry all the time?
Why does God need to demonstrate his disappointment with his children by what is perceived as physical abuse?
Why not do something wonderful in the presence of this generation?
@suziannesaid What he was claiming was rather obviously untrue. And he was twisting words and failing logic in his presentation. Any connection he was making was in his own mind. However, all my previous attempts to "school" him have fallen on deaf ears. I can only speak my mind and highlight my dissent. It's up to him to consider how his ignorance informs his own conscience, and make the requisite changes. I'm neither his mentor nor his teacher.
So, no. You didn't call him out for the "untrue" thing he said about the pandemic from his Christian point of view, right? You chose to NOT express your dissent about the main nature-of-the-Christian-God thing he was suggesting? Just to be clear.
@suziannesaid Your argument style needs work. You naysay everything said to you with a mere, "nevermind all that you just said, why didn't you punish him?" Punishing him was not my intent. You confront him if you want nothing more than punitive action.
I wasn't asking you to "punish" him. This is a debate and discussion forum. By declining to stand up to whodey and instead simply quibbling his terminology, what have you contributed to this debate? Nobody asked you to "punish" anyone.
@suziannesaid It's up to him to consider how his ignorance informs his own conscience, and make the requisite changes. I'm neither his mentor nor his teacher.
Are you waiting until whodey dies before you confront him over his suggestion about the link between abortion and the pandemic? Is that it?
@ogb No, I believe God is suffering with us when we suffer. Maybe reflect on the animal's suffering- chickens and cows do care for their young and how many of them suffer in this world, yet their suffering goes unnoticed. I would choose a chicken over a Sociopath any day. Cutting meat and dairy foods out of your diet and being sexually abstinent helps you become more spiritually aware.
@yellowstar00said @ogb No, I believe God is suffering with us when we suffer. Maybe reflect on the animal's suffering- chickens and cows do care for their young and how many of them suffer in this world, yet their suffering goes unnoticed. I would choose a chicken over a Sociopath any day. Cutting meat and dairy foods out of your diet and being sexually abstinent helps you become more spiritually aware.
But what if the chicken is a sociopath?! You don't know.
@yellowstar00said @ogb No, I believe God is suffering with us when we suffer. Maybe reflect on the animal's suffering- chickens and cows do care for their young and how many of them suffer in this world, yet their suffering goes unnoticed. I would choose a chicken over a Sociopath any day. Cutting meat and dairy foods out of your diet and being sexually abstinent helps you become more spiritually aware.
@ogbsaid if God is mad at us, and sent this C-19 to cause havoc, at least he could do is let us know what we did wrong
If the "God" figure you are speculating about is the Christian one - as depicted here by the likes of sonship and KellyJay - then, rather than it being a case of "what we did wrong" [...we are apparently unbelievably "evil and wicked" after all], it is instead a case of 'whatever God does is good', which means the deaths are good, the virus is good, the fear and the stress and the grief are good, the consequences are all good, and the mood of the "God" is in is irrelevant. He is simply 'doing good'. Apparently.
@ogbsaid if God is mad at us, and sent this C-19 to cause havoc, at least he could do is let us know what we did wrong
He sent KellyJay to tell us that we were wrong, how evil we all are to be wrong, how evil he is to be wrong and how RIGHT his version of God would to burn every single one of us alive for eternity starting right now. That’s how wrong and bad and evil we all are and it is his version of god’s holy and good nature that makes him need to do this.
KellyJay then went on to tell us how much his version of god loved us.