21 May 22
@fmf saidOkay, another reason your time you claim spent as a Christian shows you were not.
I think it is possible that a creator entity exists but I am not aware of any such entity "communicating" with human beings other than, perhaps, through the laws of nature.
God becoming a man Jesus Christ, is God communicating with man. God calls us, so if
you never had that, it was always all you again. Who did you think Jesus was while
claiming to be a Christian, just another guy?
@kellyjay saidWhen I was a Christian I thought Jesus was calling me and was literally and actually "in" me, affecting everything, transforming me. You're a Christian, right? Do you think "Jesus is just another guy"? No. You don't. Don't ask me fatuous questions.
Who did you think Jesus was while
claiming to be a Christian, just another guy?
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21 May 22
@kellyjay saidKellyjay, do you believe that if a person doesn’t believe in hell that based on that disbelief, they will go to hell, I.e. be precluded from salvation?
Okay, another reason your time you claim spent as a Christian shows you were not.
God becoming a man Jesus Christ, is God communicating with man. God calls us, so if
you never had that, it was always all you again. Who did you think Jesus was while
claiming to be a Christian, just another guy?
21 May 22
@divegeester saidI believe there is only ONE thing, that matters, Jesus Christ everything else is
Kellyjay, do you believe that if a person doesn’t believe in hell that based on that disbelief, they will go to hell, I.e. be precluded from salvation?
secondary while important, the primary is Jesus Christ.
21 May 22
@fmf saidJesus Christ is not a variable before men that we have to identify correctly. He is the
What are the implications of being "secondary while important" for "salvation"?
Word of God made flesh, God! You are right with Him; the rest is all secondary and
will work out in time as you walk with Him. Sin will be something shunned and
repented of; doctrine will be corrected, grievances will be settled in grace, and love
will replace hate. The fruit of the Spirit will become within the believer walking with
God is more evident as the walking in the flesh becomes more and more distasteful.
We can divide ourselves into things that don't matter in the long run; we can put
anything above God to our ruin, we can treat people as objects for consumption
until we are done with them. The perspective of God as we walk with Him brings to
light those things we all see right away, stealing, lying, and things like that and
more and more of our fallen nature in us comes to light, and in our walk with
the Lord, His sanctification work in us, changes us in ways not so apparent, even
our thought life is affected.
21 May 22
@divegeester saidYou can get the doctrine of hell right and still end up there dive; there is only one
I’m trying to get an unequivocal answer from you kellyjay.
Will I be precluded from salvation if I don’t believe in hell?
Yes or no?
the primarily important thing I'm at a loss as to how you keep missing that
point!
@kellyjay saidBut the question was: What are the implications of being "secondary while important" for "salvation"?
Jesus Christ is not a variable before men that we have to identify correctly. He is the
Word of God made flesh, God! You are right with Him; the rest is all secondary and
will work out in time as you walk with Him. Sin will be something shunned and
repented of; doctrine will be corrected, grievances will be settled in grace, and love
will replace hate. The fruit of the S ...[text shortened]... s sanctification work in us, changes us in ways not so apparent, even
our thought life is affected.
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21 May 22
@kellyjay saidI’m trying to get an unequivocal answer from you kellyjay.
You can get the doctrine of hell right and still end up there dive; there is only one
the primarily important thing I'm at a loss as to how you keep missing that
point!
Will I be precluded from salvation if I don’t believe in hell?
Yes or no?
21 May 22
@divegeester saidYour ability to read and comprehend, I have to call into question.
I’m trying to get an unequivocal answer from you kellyjay.
Will I be precluded from salvation if I don’t believe in hell?
Yes or no?
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@kellyjay saidWhy are you so gutless, why can’t you just be honest, answer questions honestly. It’s pathetic.
Your ability to read and comprehend, I have to call into question.
How can you call yourself a man of god?
What use would you be in the field?
22 May 22
@kellyjay saidYou asked me this facetious question [above]; it could only have been in bad faith. And I immediately gave you this answer...
Who did you think Jesus was while
claiming to be a Christian, just another guy?
When I was a Christian I thought Jesus was calling me and was literally and actually "in" me, affecting everything, transforming me. You're a Christian, right? Do you think "Jesus is just another guy"? No. You don't. Don't ask me fatuous questions.
And you have simply ignored it. Are you planning to pretend that you never saw it, never read it, never understood it?