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@kellyjay saidYou asked me this already. My answer remains the same.
Do you have the Holy Spirit in your life, since Jesus asked God to send Him to His followers?
@kellyjay saidYou asked me this already. My answer remains the same.
Do you have the Holy Spirit in your life, since Jesus asked God to send Him to His followers?
@rajk999 saidYou didn’t grasp who the Holy Spirit is, you cannot even admit God’s Spirit is within you, and you claim to know who God has shared His Spirit with, all the while pretending to actually speak for Christ as Christ. This makes you an authoritative source?
You asked me this already. My answer remains the same.
@kellyjay saidYou fake Christians do not understand the teachings of Christ and you like to boast of things you do not have. I am not any authoritative source and I have never professed to be one. Neither have I ever stated anything about myself.
You didn’t grasp who the Holy Spirit is, you cannot even admit God’s Spirit is within you, and you claim to know who God has shared His Spirit with, all the while pretending to actually speak for Christ as Christ. This makes you an authoritative source?
@rajk999 saidSeems that few Christians actually care about what Jesus actually said or didn't say.
You fake Christians do not understand the teachings of Christ and you like to boast of things you do not have. I am not any authoritative source and I have never professed to be one. Neither have I ever stated anything about myself.
Here is the authoritative source:
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, ...[text shortened]... blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. (Matthew 7:24-27 KJV)
@thinkofone saidYep. Jesus is just a name for many Christians to call on or to profess belief and faith. His doctrine and teachings are not important. They claim they follow Christ. They claim to preach about the commandments but its all lip service. It does not come from their heart.
Seems that few Christians actually care about what Jesus actually said or didn't say.
They pick and choose which parts of the Bible to ignore and then accuse others of doing just that. What hypocrites.
@rajk999 saidI agree with scripture, where you have issue is where you depart from scripture then take it upon yourself to act as God in your judgments.
You fake Christians do not understand the teachings of Christ and you like to boast of things you do not have. I am not any authoritative source and I have never professed to be one. Neither have I ever stated anything about myself.
Here is the authoritative source:
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, ...[text shortened]... blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. (Matthew 7:24-27 KJV)
@kellyjay saidYou agree with scripture. I agree with Christ. You have your focus and I have mine.
I agree with scripture, where you have issue is where you depart from scripture then take it upon yourself to act as God in your judgments.
@rajk999 saidI guess you think Christ and scripture represent two different things? You suggesting that when you read scripture that it does not reflex Jesus Word, Will, or God at all?
You agree with scripture. I agree with Christ. You have your focus and I have mine.
I dont act as God in my judgments. My judgments are mine and I am entitled to judge using my own intellect and conscience. I am required to do this to avoid falling under the influence of false teachers and false prophets like you. I am also obligated to inform less knowledgeable and more ...[text shortened]... le, so that they can avoid people like you who preach a doctrine contrary to the doctrine of Christ.
@rajk999 saidYou were speaking for Jesus were you not? Quoting scripture is one thing, claiming your words were just like His is quite the other.
You agree with scripture. I agree with Christ. You have your focus and I have mine.
I dont act as God in my judgments. My judgments are mine and I am entitled to judge using my own intellect and conscience. I am required to do this to avoid falling under the influence of false teachers and false prophets like you. I am also obligated to inform less knowledgeable and more ...[text shortened]... le, so that they can avoid people like you who preach a doctrine contrary to the doctrine of Christ.
@thinkofone saidOdd that you say that, when you ignore so much of scripture and so many clarifying questions to prove your points.
Seems that few Christians actually care about what Jesus actually said or didn't say.
They pick and choose which parts of the Bible to ignore and then accuse others of doing just that. What hypocrites.
@kellyjay saidOkay. I'll explain it to you since you can't seem to figure it out on your own.
Odd that you say that, when you ignore so much of scripture and so many clarifying questions to prove your points.
@thinkofone saidSo you put your judgment above scripture and I'm supposed to trust your self important take on any passaged what-so-ever, I think not. Is that why you refuse to answer questions about Jesus everyone asks you, your Jesus is different than the one in the Bible?
Okay. I'll explain it to you since you can't seem to figure it out on your own.
I've never claimed that I don't ignore any scripture. There is much in the Bible that doesn't hold up under the light of truth, so at best it has no value. It worst it is contrary to the spirit of truth.
On the other hand, you've often claimed that you don't ignore any scripture and often ...[text shortened]... out the blatant hypocrisy of the Christians on this forum who do the same as you.
Understand now?
@kellyjay saidSince you've once again missed the point. I'll try to dumb it down even further for you. Hopefully then you'll be able to understand it.
So you put your judgment above scripture and I'm supposed to trust your self important take on any passaged what-so-ever, I think not. Is that why you refuse to answer questions about Jesus everyone asks you, your Jesus is different than the one in the Bible?
Seems that few Christians actually care about what Jesus actually said or didn't say.
They pick and choose which parts of the Bible to ignore and then accuse others of doing just that. What hypocrites.
Odd that you say that, when you ignore so much of scripture
@thinkofone said"There is much in the Bible that doesn't hold up under the light of truth, so at best it has no value. It worst it is contrary to the spirit of truth."
Since you've once again missed the point. I'll try to dumb it down even further for you. Hopefully then you'll be able to understand it.
1) I wrote the following:
[quote]Seems that few Christians actually care about what Jesus actually said or didn't say.
They pick and choose which parts of the Bible to ignore and then accuse others of doing just that. What hypocri ...[text shortened]... has shown over and over again that you not only don't have the spirit of truth, you hate the truth.
@kellyjay saidI think it's actually worse than that Kelly. It is not just scripture as a whole that he views as untrustworthy (at least in part) it is the Gospels themselves.
So you put your judgment above scripture and I'm supposed to trust your self important take on any passaged what-so-ever, I think not. Is that why you refuse to answer questions about Jesus everyone asks you, your Jesus is different than the one in the Bible?