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    @josephw said
    Your logic fails you because you don't know whether there be a creator God or not.
    Your strong faith [and faith-based assertions attendant thereto] aside, neither of us know whether there is a creator entity or not.
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    @josephw said
    Arguing from a position of not knowing is irrational. No excuses.
    Admitting that we don't know something is an honest and rational stance to take.
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    @josephw said
    God created faith. Faith comes from God. Faith is not defined by you, but by the one that created faith.
    Thanks for telling me you believe this.
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    @fmf said
    Your strong faith [and faith-based assertions attendant thereto] aside, neither of us know whether there is a creator entity or not.
    That's the other fundamental flaw in your argument.

    You're merely projecting your lack of knowledge of the existence of a creator God onto someone else.
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    @fmf said
    Admitting that we don't know something is an honest and rational stance to take.
    That's not what I was talking about, nor was it what I inferred.

    And you know it. Speaks volumes with regards to your personal integrity.
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    @fmf said
    Thanks for telling me you believe this.
    If that's all you got out of what I posted, then you are fooling yourself.
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    @josephw said
    You're merely projecting your lack of knowledge of the existence of a creator God onto someone else.
    I defer to your knowledge of your religion, its texts and whatnot. But neither of us know whether there is some kind of entity that created the universe, your strong faith and religious zeal notwithstanding.
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    @josephw said
    If that's all you got out of what I posted, then you are fooling yourself.
    I thanked you for posting what you posted.
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    @josephw said
    That's not what I was talking about, nor was it what I inferred.

    And you know it. Speaks volumes with regards to your personal integrity.
    I don't think there's any problem with my personal integrity.
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    @fmf said
    I defer to your knowledge of your religion, its texts and whatnot. But neither of us know whether there is some kind of entity that created the universe, your strong faith and religious zeal notwithstanding.
    Speak for yourself. Stop projecting your lack of knowledge.

    I know there is a creator God, and you can't know I don't.

    It's the flaw in your reasoning that keeps you thinking I don't just because you don't.
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    @fmf said
    I thanked you for posting what you posted.
    Your welcome
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    @fmf said
    I don't think there's any problem with my personal integrity.
    If you deflect from and infer something I didn't say it calls into question your personal integrity, sincerity and authenticity.

    Or perhaps the discussion is beyond your spiritual capacity to comprehend the meaning, purpose and spiritual application of faith as it relates to God.

    Ever think of that?

    But that's a digression. The greater question is whether or not all that exists was created by a being of infinite power.

    I say yes, you say you don't know. Therefore, logically, your argument stems from a position of not knowing, which places you on the defensive and at a disadvantage. You have only a rhetoric with which to argue with. Not from reason.
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    @josephw said
    I know there is a creator God, and you can't know I don't.
    You believe there is one. You are using the word "know" im a hyperbolic way.
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    @josephw said
    If you deflect from and infer something I didn't say it calls into question your personal integrity, sincerity and authenticity.
    I responded dirrectly and honestly.
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    @josephw said
    The greater question is whether or not all that exists was created by a being of infinite power.I say yes, you say you don't know.
    Could there be a creator entity? Yes. Does either of us know that there is one? No. You believe there is one: fair enough. I understand.
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