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Originally posted by Rajk999Well, if your god is omnipotent, omniscient, and whatever we should expect that it would follow the most efficient path to realise its goals; and as such, asking why it requires a big lake of fire to get rid of naughty souls is a far more legitimate question than you give it credit for.
Regardless of what the Bible says there are those like yourself who would find a way to criticize. If method A is used, you would say why cant God use method B. If the Bible said two methods A and B would be used then you would say that methods C and D are better .. what cannot God use those.
Either way .. there are no answers to your questions.
Originally posted by AgergThe ants can ask of humans many questions of what and why and how but even if they could understand our language they wont appreciate the reason. According to the Bible the ways of God are beyond our ability to understand.
Well, if your god is omnipotent, omniscient, and whatever we should expect that it would follow the most efficient path to realise its goals; and as such, asking why it requires a big lake of fire to get rid of naughty souls is a far more legitimate question than you give it credit for.
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Originally posted by Rajk999Well you have to establish that the Bible wasn't written by humans before you can go round suggesting that my perspective on such matters is like that of an ant standing before a mountain. If it was (it was!) written by humans then you have to demonstrate they made no mistakes in writing it, otherwise, living in an age of much superior enlightenment and educational resources, (along with my not-too-shabby intellect) than that of your Bible's authors, I would be the mountain compared to your ants.
The ants can ask of humans many questions of what and why and how but even if they could understand our language they wont appreciate the reason. According to the Bible the ways of God are beyond our ability to understand.
My question still stands.
Originally posted by josephwlemme try..
Never mind what [b]we have to say about "eternal hell", go ask God.
Will you believe Him?[/b]
hey God, what's the deal with eternal hell... ... ?? ... God!? ....... Gooooooodddddddd????????
bah, he's not listening; I'll try the tooth fairy instead..
hey tooth-fairy, what's the deal with eternal hell... ... ?? ... tooth-fairy!? ....... tooooootttthhhhhh-faaaaaiiiiiiiirrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy????????
Bah...no response, we'll have to keep asking you guys
Originally posted by AgergWell Mr Mountain, my answer stands .. there are no answers to that type of question.
Well you have to establish that the Bible wasn't written by humans before you can go round suggesting that my perspective on such matters is like that of an ant standing before a mountain. If it was (it was!) written by humans then you have to demonstrate they made no mistakes in writing it, otherwise, living in an age of much superior enlightenment and educat ...[text shortened]... r Bible's authors, I would be the mountain compared to your ants.
My question still stands.
Originally posted by AgergYou'll hear God's voice through His Word Agerg.
lemme try..
hey God, what's the deal with eternal hell... ... ?? ... God!? ....... Gooooooodddddddd????????
bah, he's not listening; I'll try the tooth fairy instead..
hey tooth-fairy, what's the deal with eternal hell... ... ?? ... tooth-fairy!? ....... tooooootttthhhhhh-faaaaaiiiiiiiirrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy????????
Bah...no response, we'll have to keep asking you guys
But not as long as you are spiritually deaf.
Seriously
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Originally posted by Rajk999Not true, I know of at least one good answer to my question - it merely doesn't align with your faith. Now, on the other hand, had you have told me that there are no answers to that question that leave the integrity of your faith intact then I would be inclined to agree :]
Well Mr Mountain, my answer stands .. there are no answers to that type of question.
"God's ways are above humans" is just a synonym for "I don't know; and what I believe about this concept doesn't make much sense when I actually think about it for a moment...hopefully you'll get bored of asking this so I can forget about it"
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Originally posted by RJHindsI think what is true of you and your 'Eternally Saved' and 'No Works' Gangs is that you people take little pieces of scripture that speak of eternal life and apply it rather slyly so that you have nothing to do .. its called the path of least resistance and its the fools way out. The way of Christ is love and good works .. and it is not an easy road.
That is certainly true of you.
The Instructor
Like earlier you said you want to 'LIVE BY FAITH'. I reminded you that the Bible said that the JUST shall live by faith. You left out the word 'just' because Just has a specific meaning that you don't not care to live by.
Want to respond to that last post Mr 'Not So Just' Instructor? 😀
Originally posted by Rajk999Lol...Hit that one on the head for RJ.
I think what is true of you and your 'Eternally Saved' and 'No Works' Gangs is that you people take little pieces of scripture that speak of eternal life and apply it rather slyly so that you have nothing to do .. its called the path of least resistance and its the fools way out. The way of Christ is love and good works .. and it is not an easy road.
Like ...[text shortened]... are to live by.
Want to respond to that last post Mr 'Not So Just' Instructor? 😀