Creation is evidence for which God?

@ponderable said
We do have some facts:

* If somebody claims causeless cause it is regardless if they speak about a singularity (the farthest to go back in the big bang hypothesis) or the creator. The question what causes either is not possible to answer in the relevant framework.

* Any religion which claims that creation was caused by a god is in fact giving a hypothesis as in the f ...[text shortened]... ion where matter and energy came from without resorting to some beginning beyond which we can't ask.

Only a conscious mind can explain any change of an eternal state. The days of feigning ignorance for atheists is over. Time to choose to be a decent human being or suffer the consequences. Praise Jesus.

@kellyjay said
You making that claim doesn’t make it true.

No sir. Science does.

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Unfortunately sir your line of descendants is broken at the very beginning, when we take into account that Adam, as an actual individual, never existed. (Evidenced of course by the fact that we evolved as a species and were never created in our current human form).

That is your religious faith speaking.
That is not your scientificall ...[text shortened]... rong.
Its just not rigorous.

I think certainly there was a first man and woman - Adam and Eve.

Thankfully we don't have to observe evolution 'as it is happening' to evidence its occurrence.

Phew,

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Thankfully we don't have to observe evolution 'as it is happening' to evidence its occurrence.

Phew,

And what have we observed about evolution?

It is punctuated and not gradual as Darwin once assumed.

Why do you think that is?

@ponderable said
We do have some facts:

* If somebody claims causeless cause it is regardless if they speak about a singularity (the farthest to go back in the big bang hypothesis) or the creator. The question what causes either is not possible to answer in the relevant framework.

* Any religion which claims that creation was caused by a god is in fact giving a hypothesis as in the f ...[text shortened]... ion where matter and energy came from without resorting to some beginning beyond which we can't ask.

Nicely written sir.

@darfius said
Can you read? I said it doesn't matter if they do and explained why.

Still waiting for you to indicate if your claim about the unique qualities of your God is based on actually looking at what other religions believe, or is just an arrogant and blinkered statement.

@darfius said
Only a conscious mind can explain any change of an eternal state. The days of feigning ignorance for atheists is over. Time to choose to be a decent human being or suffer the consequences. Praise Jesus.

That sounds like something a bad person would say.

As an atheist though, I forgive you.

@whodey said
And what have we observed about evolution?

It is punctuated and not gradual as Darwin once assumed.

Why do you think that is?

I don't deify Darwin.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I don't deify Darwin.

So why is evolution punctuated?

Why have a Cambrian Explosion, for example?

In fact, why a "Big Bang"?

@darfius said
No

Can a person in heaven choose to sin?

@suzianne said
Who told you that? Just wondering.

It was a thought that inevitably popped into my head. I was always going to have it.

@stellspalfie said
Can a person in heaven choose to sin?

Of course, but why would they?

@darfius said
Of course, but why would they?

Because it appears to be human nature to sin.....hasn't that been the whole problem?

Will/do people sin in heaven?

@stellspalfie said
Because it appears to be human nature to sin.....hasn't that been the whole problem?

Will/do people sin in heaven?

At the end of the age, those who belong to Christ will become as He is, given bodies like His which are not fallen (with fallen inclinations, tendencies and inheritances). So they will be returned to the state Adam and Eve were in before they fell. It will still be possible for them to sin, but with the knowledge of what sin has brought about before and with no corresponding physical temptation anymore, again I ask, why would they?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I don't deify Darwin.

More, it is a great strength of science that it corrects parts of a theory which are wrong, regardless of how well-esteemed the proponent of those ideas was.