I pick a flower and say, "Ah, evidence that the Christian God exists."

I then pick a second flower and say, "Ah, evidence that Brahma exists."


Can any religion claim an exclusive link between creation and their particular flavour of the divine?

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

The universe is not self-existent and therefore requires a self-existent (or causeless) cause. This causeless cause, as the source of time, space, power, and information, must be eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient. These are not claimed for any God but the God of the Bible.

@darfius said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

The universe is not self-existent and therefore requires a self-existent (or causeless) cause. This causeless cause, as the source of time, space, power, and information, must be eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient. These are not claimed for any God but the God of the Bible.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Are you sure about that?!...

@darfius said
Of course. The logic isn't terribly difficult, except when bad people have a vested interest for it to be. I'm not a bad person, so I am free to think clearly and soundly.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I pick a flower and say, "Ah, evidence that the Christian God exists."

I then pick a second flower and say, "Ah, evidence that Brahma exists."


Can any religion claim an exclusive link between creation and their particular flavour of the divine?

@darfius said
Of course. The logic isn't terribly difficult, except when bad people have a vested interest for it to be. I'm not a bad person, so I am free to think clearly and soundly.

@suzianne said
Nope.

@suzianne said
So atheists are "bad people"?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
...Are you sure about that?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I can't believe the correct answer was given so early in the thread. 😉

@darfius said
Yes

@darfius said
There's a new sheriff in town.

@darfius said
Is this meant to sound profound? It doesn't.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

I would be interested for someone to produce for our examination a sacred text on the creation of the world. What I would look for is as CLEARLY stated that the Creator is transcendent to, outside of, and beyond all things and OF that creation.

Here is a chance for someone to produce such statements as - "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" being clearly OTHER than and outside of and transcendent to time and the entire universe.

Shut me down somebody! Search your creation cosmologies. I'm out here on a limb now. Go for it.