Originally posted by dj2beckerAre you claiming that you do not accept that the threats and restrictions detailed in your 220 words could trigger anxiety or chronic depression in a child?
Ok so you can only argue that this is psychological abuse because you say so. You have no working definition to link it to?
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatLet's say you live in an environment where the act of murder is threatened with the death penalty. Would you say that everyone who lives in this environment even if they never contemplate murder is subject to psychological abuse?
The threat of cruelty or violence is enough to qualify as psychological abuse, I'm sure any right-thinking person would agree. Personally, i think some of the threats you claim to have been subjected to were pretty cruel, but that's just my view. They were certainly psychologically abusive according to the definition you have given us.
Originally posted by dj2beckerIrrelevant. I refer you to my previous post:
Let's say you live in an environment where the act of murder is threatened with the death penalty. Would you say that everyone who lives in this environment even if they never contemplate murder is subject to psychological abuse?
Are you claiming that you do not accept that the threats and restrictions detailed in your 220 words could trigger anxiety or chronic depression in a child?
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Originally posted by divegeesterYes this was covered up, she was told by the church leader that she couldn't inform my parents. She left the church as a result when she was 18, I was 5 at the time. I only found out about this while I was considering leaving permanently and no longer living there. When this information was revealed to me it was probably the decisive factor that lead me away.
I remembered today that you told us about your sister being raped; was this in the church?
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatWhere in my 220 words did I claim that I was ever directly threatened as a child? I think I would know if I suffered from anxiety or chromic depression.
Irrelevant. I refer you to my previous post:
Are you claiming that you do not accept that the threats and restrictions detailed in your 220 words could trigger anxiety or chronic depression in a child?
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatThe older I got the more I started to smell a rat. As I said before things were very well covered up. My sister was raped when `I was 5 and I only found out about it in my 20s. Interestingly some of the older more mature people who were there in 1966 when the movement started, (who left during my time) said when it started things were different at the beginning it actually started off well and gradually evolved into legalism. It may actually have evolved during my lifetime initially there were only a few isolated cases of abuse which were well covered up. By the time I was a young adult it was impossible to hide, more and more cases came to the light and as people got the courage to speak out others also started sharing their stories.
So you were entirely unaware of the threats hanging over your head while you were allegedly a member of this cult?
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Originally posted by dj2beckerYeah, having a member of your immediate family raped by your church leader does kind of finish up the bible study groups
Yes this was covered up, she was told by the church leader that she couldn't inform my parents. She left the church as a result when she was 18, I was 5 at the time. I only found out about this while I was considering leaving permanently and no longer living there. When this information was revealed to me it was probably the decisive factor that lead me away.
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Originally posted by divegeesterTo be clear she was not raped by the leader but by a male counselor, she went to the leader for help and he covered it up and told her not to tell her parents.
Yeah, having a member of your immediate family raped by your church leader does kind of finish up the bible study groups
Originally posted by dj2beckerHow does this square with the new claim that you studied in a "secular university" for two years?
Unlike you I did not study at a 'secular university'. Even though it had Christian ethos it is still accredited worldwide and hence I teach in the middle east.
You have been caught in a lie.
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Originally posted by dj2beckerIf it was covered up as you say, then how did the church leader now about it and why didn't your sister report it to the police?
Yes this was covered up, she was told by the church leader that she couldn't inform my parents. She left the church as a result when she was 18, I was 5 at the time. I only found out about this while I was considering leaving permanently and no longer living there. When this information was revealed to me it was probably the decisive factor that lead me away.