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This might be worth a thread of its own.
@fmf saidI don't think Jesus would divide up your belief systems as you do. It would fall into the unbeliever group regardless if you sort of believed, completely disbelieved, had no belief, believed but didn't care, believed but didn't think it important enough, whatever or however it can be described, if you are not in a right relationship on judgment day, odds are everyone will hear the same message. "Depart from me I never knew you."
Maybe, the Jewish rabbi who lived 2,000 years ago - the one you worship - didn't have any understanding of atheism or agnosticism. Maybe Jesus only knew about Jews ~ devout Jews and not devout Jews. Which Bible verses - in your view - depict most clearly Jesus' understanding of lack of belief, of atheism, of agnosticism, and of people adhering to other religions?
@fmf saidthinkofone's Jesus might have had that issue, he was just a guy who died. The Jesus of the Bible being the Son of God not so much.
Maybe, the Jewish rabbi who lived 2,000 years ago - the one you worship - didn't have any understanding of atheism or agnosticism. Maybe Jesus only knew about Jews ~ devout Jews and not devout Jews. Which Bible verses - in your view - depict most clearly Jesus' understanding of lack of belief, of atheism, of agnosticism, and of people adhering to other religions?
@kellyjay saidIf you don't think Jesus would divide up belief systems as I did, it would mean he had a truncated understanding of human nature. So which Bible verses depict most clearly Jesus' understanding of human nature and things like people adhering to other religions?
I don't think Jesus would divide up your belief systems as you do. It would fall into the unbeliever group regardless if you sort of believed, completely disbelieved, had no belief, believed but didn't care, believed but didn't think it important enough, whatever or however it can be described, if you are not in a right relationship on judgment day, odds are everyone will hear the same message. "Depart from me I never knew you."
@kellyjay saidBut you repeatedly go on and on about how we, and you, are all evil and that we can do nothing to save ourselves and that we can take no credit for our salvation and that we are all fit for hell.
Resting on one’s butt to slide into heaven due to a magical prayer isn’t Biblical.
@fmf saidKellyJay is striving to ensure he doesn’t lose his salvation but apparently he cannot achieved that that, so who knows what it is he actually means.
You are striving to be something you cannot be? How so? What are you striving to be that you cannot be?
@sonship saidThis is not going to go away sonship, so you may as well stop hiding.
No one besides FMF and Divegeester needs some clarification of my position about the Trinity, salvation, and publications of co-workers of the local churches ?
@fmf saidWe tend to complicate things with our language, I'd say God doesn't mince words He typically just goes straight to the facts.
If you don't think Jesus would divide up belief systems as I did, it would mean he had a truncated understanding of human nature. So which Bible verses depict most clearly Jesus' understanding of human nature and things like people adhering to other religions?
@kellyjay saidSo which Bible verses depict most clearly Jesus' understanding of "the facts" of human nature and things like people adhering to other religions?
We tend to complicate things with our language, I'd say God doesn't mince words He typically just goes straight to the facts.
@kellyjay saidWhat a shame you don’t “strive” after the same thing.
We tend to complicate things with our language, I'd say God doesn't mince words He typically just goes straight to the facts.
@kellyjay saidHow will I know if I’ve lost my salvation?
We tend to complicate things with our language, I'd say God doesn't mince words He typically just goes straight to the facts.
@fmf saidYou need a verse for the all knowing God's understanding of the human condition, the One who molded us, designed us, gave us our understanding?
So which Bible verses depict most clearly Jesus' understanding of "the facts" of human nature and things like people adhering to other religions?
@kellyjay saidCould you give me a verse to help me know if I have lost my salvation?
You need a verse for the all knowing God's understanding of the human condition, the One who molded us, designed us, gave us our understanding?
@kellyjay saidI am asking if you have any Bible verses pertaining to the specific issue I have raised. If you don't have any, just say you don't have any.
You need a verse for the all knowing God's understanding of the human condition, the One who molded us, designed us, gave us our understanding?