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@fmf saidIf you were "fully aware" of God credibility wouldn't be an issue.
I am fully aware of your particular God figure and I do not find anything you say about it to be credible.
You only know about God.
@fmf saidIf you were "fully aware" of God credibility wouldn't be an issue.
I am fully aware of your particular God figure and I do not find anything you say about it to be credible.
@fmf saidBut you said you're "fully aware." Yet you refer to God as an "it."
.., I see evidence that might demonstrate that a creator entity exists.
@josephw saidFaith-related bromides like this are perhaps signals to fellow Christians; this kind of rhetorical posturings are a bit wasted on people who don't share your beliefs
If you were "fully aware" of God credibility wouldn't be an issue.
You only know about God.
@josephw said"It", grammatically, refers to the collocation "God figure".
But you said you're "fully aware." Yet you refer to God as an "it."
@fmf saidClearly you are completely unaware of God. Clearly you are aware of religion.
I spent nearly three decades immersed in the same faith as you profess: I am plenty aware of your God figure and the claims you make about it.
@fmf saidjosephw, any thoughts on the circular reasoning at work in what KellyJay suggested?
Wait. So. You're saying... your religious beliefs cause a supernatural phenomenon in you that enables you to know that your religious beliefs are true, is that it?
@josephw saidYou are mistaken on all counts.
Clearly you are completely unaware of God. Clearly you are aware of religion.
Clearly you don't know God, and never did.
Clearly.
@fmf saidDo you even understand your own question?
What other evidence is there here that you believe in the Christian God apart from you quoting scriptures and asserting tenets of your faith?
@josephw saidI am willing to accept that you self-identify as a Christian but the whole idea that belief in the Christian God is NOT a religion is just a kind of sophistry.
If I say I believe in the "Christian God" you're just going to have to take my word for it. "What other evidence" is a preposterous thing to ask.
@josephw saidI'd say you have faith that your Christian God figure exists, very very very strong faith, I'll grant you, but to use the word "know" in this context is a kind propagandizing way to use the word. One could say the Hindus "know" the Vedas are true, but it's no more or less invalid as you using the word that way
You would do better asking how do I know the Christian God I believe in exists.
@fmf saidYou're being irrational.
You are mistaken on all counts.
@josephw saidWe both know about your God figure. Because you are a religionist, you think there is some significance in dropping the word "about".
You only know about God. You don't know God.
@josephw saidWhen you talk about "knowing God", all you are saying is that you believe the narratives in the Bible are true. Whether he actually exists or not has no bearing on your belief in what the Bible says about him.
You can't know God if you don't know he exists.
@fmf saidYeah, we both know about God. But you are a religionist because while you know "about" God you don't know God exists and are in a vacuum void of substance with regard to actually knowing God.
We both know about your God figure. Because you are a religionist, you think there is some significance in dropping the word "about".