Assertions about The Unknowable God

@kellyjay said
Can you understand God without God’s Spirit?

Yes, I think so.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I'd say both. Can an ant ever be said to know an elephant? (Even if the elephant tried to make itself known to the ant).

Well, an ant cannot know an elephant very well. But it's not zero. The ant feels the tremor of the steps and sees the squashing of its comrades. It might even connect the two thing to one massive being.

@kellyjay said
Can you understand God without God’s Spirit?

Wait. So. You're saying... your religious beliefs cause a supernatural phenomenon in you that enables you to know that your religious beliefs are true, is that it?

@fmf said
Wait. So. You're saying... your religious beliefs cause a supernatural phenomenon in you that enables you to know that your religious beliefs are true, is that it?

Wait. Are you suffering from religiophobia?

In one thread you claim to be interested in discussing people's beliefs, and then in another you turn and mock those that have faith in God.

Hypocrisy anyone?

@josephw said
Wait. Are you suffering from religiophobia?

No, not at all. I'm not religious that's all.

@josephw said
In one thread you claim to be interested in discussing people's beliefs, and then in another you turn and mock those that have faith in God.

It's was a satirical quip about the circular reasoning that underpins what KellyJay was suggesting. It's not mockery. Indeed, it was a point made with pinpoint accuracy.

@josephw said
Hypocrisy anyone?

Not from me. You seem to be using the word "hypocrisy" incorrectly. You mock me constantly about my beliefs - it's ok, it's water of a duck's back. But here you are apparently worried about people supposedly mocking others' beliefs. Maybe you should look up the word "hypocrisy".

@fmf said
Wait. So. You're saying... your religious beliefs cause a supernatural phenomenon in you that enables you to know that your religious beliefs are true, is that it?

Are you going to address this observation, josephw?

@fmf said
Are you going to address this observation, josephw?

I’m still waiting for him to come back and address my point in the other thread.

@divegeester said
I’m still waiting for him to come back and address my point in the other thread.

How sad for you, you little ninny of God.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
It can be scientifically ascertained.

ROFL, yeah sure, show God one way or another as if God can be manipulated by us against His will. It will always be on His terms, being God that comes with the position.

@kellyjay said
ROFL, yeah sure, show God one way or another as if God can be manipulated by us against His will. It will always be on His terms, being God that comes with the position.

If "God" is a non-human entity rather than a "humanoid" or "superhuman" of some kind, then what does "being manipulated" mean?

@fmf said
No, not at all. I'm not religious that's all.

No, that's not all. You perceive yourself as "not religious" because you think "religion" means believing in an actual living creator being.

You are mistaken. Religion is man made. Surely, since you are unaware of the existence of a creator being, and deny his existence, you can see that religion must then be man's own invention!?

Clearly, if God doesn't exist, all belief systems and practices are of human origin.

@fmf said
Not from me. You seem to be using the word "hypocrisy" incorrectly. You mock me constantly about my beliefs - it's ok, it's water of a duck's back. But here you are apparently worried about people supposedly mocking others' beliefs. Maybe you should look up the word "hypocrisy".

I don't deny mocking you. That's the difference between you and I. But my mocking is in reply to yours.

@fmf said
Are you going to address this observation, josephw?

"...your religious beliefs cause a supernatural phenomenon in you that enables you to know that your religious beliefs are true, is that it?"

It's a bogus question lacking intellectual integrity. It's mocking.

You're hung up on religiosity. Religion has nothing to do with faith in the object of belief.