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    26 Jan '23 12:55
    @divegeester said
    I’m still waiting for him to come back and address my point in the other thread.
    Do you feel like you're stuck at the bus stop in the pouring rain?
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    @josephw said
    No, that's not all. You perceive yourself as "not religious" because you think "religion" means believing in an actual living creator being.

    You are mistaken. Religion is man made. Surely, since you are unaware of the existence of a creator being, and deny his existence, you can see that religion must then be man's own invention!?

    Clearly, if God doesn't exist, all belief systems and practices are of human origin.
    All religions are "man made". Even if a creator entity exists, all religions that purport to worship that creator entity are "man made". The Hebrews made their religion [it branched off into three], the Hindus made their religion, and so on.
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    26 Jan '23 13:58
    @fmf said
    All religions are "man made".
    Agreed.
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    26 Jan '23 14:03
    @fmf said
    Even if a creator entity exists, all religions that purport to worship that creator entity are "man made".
    If a "creator entity exists", man's assertions relative to anything about that entity that that entity hasn't informed man of is religion.

    Including your own.
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    @josephw said
    If a "creator entity exists", man's assertions relative to anything about that entity that that entity hasn't informed man of is religion.

    Including your own.
    I used to be religious but I am not any more.
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    @josephw said
    Agreed.
    All religions are "man made", including yours.
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    @josephw said
    You are unaware of the existence of a creator being, and deny his existence
    I do not "deny the existence" of a creator entity. I've explained that to you dozens and dozens of times.
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    26 Jan '23 14:41
    @fmf said
    I used to be religious but I am not any more.
    I've never been religious. I'm a realist.
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    @fmf said
    All religions are "man made", including yours.
    I don't have religion. I'm not religious. I don't do religious things.

    You can't process that can you?
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    @fmf said
    I do not "deny the existence" of a creator entity. I've explained that to you dozens and dozens of times.
    I'm aware of the dozens and dozens of times you said that.

    If you were listening you would have heard me say you are unaware of God.

    You can't "deny" God's existence because you don't know whether he exists or not.

    Which means, in translation, you are unaware of God.
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    @josephw said
    I've never been religious. I'm a realist.
    You're a Bible-quoting religionist.
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    @josephw said
    I'm aware of the dozens and dozens of times you said that.

    If you were listening you would have heard me say you are unaware of God.

    You can't "deny" God's existence because you don't know whether he exists or not.

    Which means, in translation, you are unaware of God.
    I am fully aware of your particular God figure and I do not find anything you say about it to be credible. If God = a creator entity, however, I do not deny its existence. Indeed, I see evidence that might demonstrate that a creator entity exists.
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    @fmf said
    You're a Bible-quoting religionist.
    In your unaware and uniform opinion.

    Quoting the scriptures doesn't make one religious.

    You are religiously hampered by your own narrow perspective.
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    @josephw said
    Which means, in translation, you are unaware of God.
    I spent nearly three decades immersed in the same faith as you profess: I am plenty aware of your God figure and the claims you make about it.
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    @josephw said
    In your unaware and uniform opinion.

    Quoting the scriptures doesn't make one religious.

    You are religiously hampered by your own narrow perspective.
    What other evidence is there here that you believe in the Christian God apart from you quoting scriptures and asserting tenets of your faith?
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