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I emphasize again that no individual can be filled with all that God is.
That is impossible. And some may mistakenly think "partakers of the divine nature" (2 Pet. 1:4) means an individual deification in which all of God in His infinite entireness is expressed and manifested in each individual.
Rather Paul said all the saints are needed to apprehend the vast infinite dimensions of Christ and His love.
"That Christ may His home in your hearts through faith, that you being rooted and grounded in love, may be full of strength to apprehend with ALL THE SAINTS what the breadth and length and height and depth are and to know the knowledge surpassing love of Christ, that you may be filled unto all the fullness of God." (Eph. 3:17-19)
What is the destination? That ALL THE SAINTS be strong to apprehend together the vast dimension of Christ in order to be 'FILLED . . . unto all the fullness of God." .
The dimension of Christ are expressed as the endless dimensions of the universe.
How broad is "the breadth" ?
How long is "the length" ?
How height is "the height" ?
How deep is "the depth"?
It is knowledge surpassing. It is like the infinite volume of the whole universe. Yet the church universal is to be "filled unto all the fullness of God."
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The putting of a receviving organ in man into which God could impart Himself into man was a very significant thing. In creating the universe we see this was on His heart.
"The burden of the word of Jehovah concerning Israel. Thus declares Jehovah, who stretches forth the heavens and lays the foundation of the earth and forms the spirit of man within him." (Zech. 12:1)
The heavens were stretched for in the expanding unuiverse FOR the earth.
The foundation of the earth was laid FOR man.
And God formed the human spirit within man FOR God to impart His life into us.
The universe is for the earth.
The earth is for man.
And man is for God.
God formed in man standing on the earth within the stretched forth and expanding universe a spirit. That is that "he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit." might become a reality - a fulfilling of the eternal purpose of the Creator.
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@sonship saidOk
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Daydreamer.
You have done very little to show error in Lee's ministry.
Witness Lee has been unilaterally shown in this forum, over and over again, to be a man of gross error.
Credit primarily to Ghost of a Duke, but others also.
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@kevin-eleven saidOnly if they water them on a regular basis and sing to them
What of the city folk? Will they be saved if they have plants on their balconies?
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@sonship saidThe core message of the Bible is a simple one. It is not obscure, hidden, in need of 'higher truths' from Witness Lee. The Bible tells of God restoring the world to His original design, of restoring mankind to God.
I emphasize again that no individual can be filled with all that God is.
That is impossible. And some may mistakenly think "partakers of the divine nature" (2 Pet. 1:4) means an individual deification in which all of God in His infinite entireness is expressed and manifested in each individual.
Rather Paul said all the saints are needed to apprehend th ...[text shortened]... the whole universe. Yet the church universal is to be "filled unto all the fullness of God."
God's original plan was 'not' to have mankind deified. That is not the Christian message.
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What of the city folk? Will they be saved if they have plants on their balconies?
City folks are included also in God's full salvation. Corinth was a city and I am sure probably some of the believers there may have had gardens, potted plants, etc.
When they contemplated Paul's words I bet they marveled and were thankful that Christ had sown Himself into them.
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The core message of the Bible is a simple one. It is not obscure, hidden, in need of 'higher truths' from Witness Lee. The Bible tells of God restoring the world to His original design, of restoring mankind to God.
God's original plan was 'not' to have mankind deified. That is not the Christian message.
The truth is hidden to some who are dominated by a natural mind, natural thinking void of revelation.
This is why Paul prayed that "the eyes of your heart having been enlightened". The eyes of some hearts are not enlightened. No atheist has the eyes of his heart enlightened to the most basic truth - that God exists.
Not all people who pick up a Bible see the truth. So the Apostle Paul prayed "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the full knowledge of Him . . . " (Eph. 1:17)
No atheist has the eyes of his heart enlightened if he doesn't believe in God. And no atheist has wisdom or revelation if he cannot believe Jesus is the Son of God.
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It is a tragic figure indeed who speaks strongly about blaspheming God yet does not believe God exists. Such is Ghost of a Duke a very tragic figure.
Meanwhile Paul prayed that his audience would have a "spirit of wisdom and revelation" . That means their regenerated spirit had more and more influence over their mind - renewing it, treansforming it, enlightening it. The spirit of man being one with the Spirit of God must spread out more of this influence over the mind of man. Then his spirit with the Holy Spirit having more and more influence over his thinking becomes "a spirit of wisdom and revelation".
The salvation is so very tremendous that revelation is needed to apprehend it. It is so rich, so valuable, so precious that wisdom and revelation from the Holy Spirit are needed to appreciate it.
"Thre eyes of your heart having been enlightened, that you may know what is the hope of His calling, and what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints." (Eph 1:18)
RICHES! UNTOLD RICHES!
These are the wealth and preciousnesss of God's inheritance in the saints. You see not only do the saints inherit God through Christ but God HImself inherits a rich treasure in the believers.
" . . . HIS Inheritance in the saints."
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God's original plan was 'not' to have mankind deified. That is not the Christian message.
The salvation in Christ restores but surpasses restoration to go ON to something even higher.
We should not think merely of restoring Adam to his state before he fell. We should not imagine God would stop with another Edenic situation. There is more.
Adam was placed before "the tree of life" to take in God as his life. He never did that. And when he partook of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil the way to the main tree "the tree of life" was closed off to him.
Thus man was not only joined to Satan. Man was "alienated from the life of God" (Eph. 4:18) Here is where the alienation from God's life coming into man's life to be united started.
"And Jehovah God said, Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now lest he put forth his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat and live forever -
Then Jehovah God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to work the ground from 3which he was taken.
So He drove the man out, and at the east of the garden of Eden He placeds the cheribum and a flaming sword which turned in every direction to guard the way to the tree of life." (Gen. 3:22-24)
Man was and is still through his ignorance "alinenated from the life of God" until he comes to the life of God now embodied in the God-man the Lord Jesus our Savior.
"In Him was life, and the life was the light of men." (John 1:4)
I stop here for length.
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Did you ever hear about "His inheritance in the saints" ?
In traditional Christianity did you ever hear about God inheriting a great inheritane "in the saints"?
We heard about we forgiven sinners inheriting. But we rarely heard, if ever, about God inheriting us who are saved as a glorious treasure to express God in us.
"The eyes of your heart having been enlightened, that you may know what is the hope of His calling, and what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints.
And what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe, accordoing to the operatation of the might of His strength which He caused to operate in Christ in raising Him from the dead and seating Him at His right hand in the heavenlies."
With great power of resurrection life God is securing His inheritance in the saints. He will be glorified in the church. This is God's rich inheritance as we inherit salvation.
You never got told this in traditional Christianity did you?
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" . . . and what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints . . . "
I bet most of you never heard of such a thing as the riches of GOD'S inheritance in us the saints, the believers. We thought "Why God doesn't need anything. We're pitiful. We're needy. We're the ones who need everything. What does God need?"
But the Bible show a MUTUAL Inheritance. We inherit the riches of Christ and God inherits the glory manifested in the church.