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@soothfast said
Well, even pop-science books on astronomy make it clear that the cosmological constant Λ is still not quite nailed down, and that has implications for distances and just about anything else related to the universe. It's not exactly a secret.
Einstein's cosmological constant Λ was his biggest blunder. It was way off. He was unaware the universe was expanding at an accelerated rate.

Don't believe everything you are told.

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/top-physicist-admits-distant-star-photo-was-actually-chorizo


@Metal-Brain
You mean THIS zerohenge:?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge


@Metal-Brain
If you actually took the time to research how they do that you would stop making yourself look REALLY stupid. For one thing, the visible universe has a max distance we can see with scopes, that is just under 14 billion light years, beyond that it is educated guesses like the idea that the universe is actually about 3 or 4 times bigger than what we can see because it has been expanding faster than the speed of light and still is expanding faster than c.
We THINK the universe is about 50 billion light years out, that is to say 100 billion LY across if we can assume the shape like a ball which may or may not be true.


@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
If you actually took the time to research how they do that you would stop making yourself look REALLY stupid. For one thing, the visible universe has a max distance we can see with scopes, that is just under 14 billion light years, beyond that it is educated guesses like the idea that the universe is actually about 3 or 4 times bigger than what we can see becau ...[text shortened]... is to say 100 billion LY across if we can assume the shape like a ball which may or may not be true.
"it has been expanding faster than the speed of light and still is expanding faster than c."

Einstein said nothing can travel faster than c.


@metal-brain said
"it has been expanding faster than the speed of light and still is expanding faster than c."

Einstein said nothing can travel faster than c.
You are obviously misunderstanding the difference of space expanding faster than c and matter traveling faster than c.

Space is not matter.

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@Suzianne
I used to be in and out of Bell labs working in a cleanroom there and found in the auditorium a talk by Alan Guth about the big bang and such. He opened it up at the end for questions and I did a bit of math and saw the rough range of the expansion from millimicronnanonano second or so he said it went from something the size of a proton to the size of a grapefruit and I calculated that meant it was expanding in that era at 10^22 times faster than light. I asked that question how does that fly in face of the limit of c.
First he said, 'You got your arithmetic right'🙂 and then explained spacetime does not have a speed limit, only the mass residing in it has c as limit.
Thinking on that now, I am wondering if it is due to the Higgs field soaking the universe, not sure exactly what the Higgs field is, like electric field? Like magnetic field? Not sure but it is associated with giving particles mass.
So I wonder if going faster and faster in space till you get close to c, could it be like driving a sumarine through molasses, where the field sort of piles up in front of you and giving more mass, maybe and slowing time for sure.
My guess is the Higgs field is at fault here.
BTW, I saw some talks by Michelle Thaller, a scientist at NASA:

Here is a short bio:

https://bigthink.com/people/michelle-thaller/


@suzianne said
You are obviously misunderstanding the difference of space expanding faster than c and matter traveling faster than c.

Space is not matter.
The universe is matter. Galaxies travel faster than light? What is your source of information? Show me Einstein was wrong.


@sonhouse said
@Suzianne
I used to be in and out of Bell labs working in a cleanroom there and found in the auditorium a talk by Alan Guth about the big bang and such. He opened it up at the end for questions and I did a bit of math and saw the rough range of the expansion from millimicronnanonano second or so he said it went from something the size of a proton to the size of a grapefruit ...[text shortened]... aller, a scientist at NASA:

Here is a short bio:

https://bigthink.com/people/michelle-thaller/
"First he said, 'You got your arithmetic right'🙂 and then explained spacetime does not have a speed limit, only the mass residing in it has c as limit."

Prove it. Prove Einstein was wrong. We are all waiting.

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@Metal-Brain
Go fry an egg on your metal brain, I don't have to supply you with SHYTE.
Look it up yourself you intellectual lazyness.
The whole IDEA of the BB is SPACETIME expanded taking matter with it.
Like bits of matter on a conveyer belt, the matter doesn't know it is going faster than light.


@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
Go fry an egg on your metal brain, I don't have to supply you with SHYTE.
Look it up yourself you intellectual lazyness.
The whole IDEA of the BB is SPACETIME expanded taking matter with it.
Like bits of matter on a conveyer belt, the matter doesn't know it is going faster than light.
You are claiming Einstein was wrong and matter can travel the speed of light.
You chose your words poorly. Nothing is traveling faster than c.

Go back to your source and reread it. If you are using an exact quote your source is wrong. I suspect you altered the quote to be wrong though. Go back and read it again.

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@metal-brain said
Don't believe everything you are told.

https://www.zerohedge.com/
Oh, the irony...

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@metal-brain said
The universe is matter. Galaxies travel faster than light? What is your source of information? Show me Einstein was wrong.
Einstein was not wrong.

You are wrong about what you believe Einstein wrote, and always have been.


@shallow-blue said
Einstein was not wrong.

You are wrong about what you believe Einstein wrote, and always have been.
c is the speed limit.
Nothing can go faster.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jan/12/einstein-theory-of-relativity-speed-of-light

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@Metal-Brain
You stupid DOLT, SPACETIME HAS NO SPEED LIMIT AND IT IS NOT MATTER.
it is MATTER that has the speed limit. Get that through your so-called brain.


@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
You stupid DOLT, SPACETIME HAS NO SPEED LIMIT AND IT IS NOT MATTER.
it is MATTER that has the speed limit. Get that through your so-called brain.
You are claiming Einstein was wrong. He said nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jan/12/einstein-theory-of-relativity-speed-of-light

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