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One minute I'm reading about these two guys are going to
catch an 'obvious cheat' (their words not mine).
And they were deciding what games to look at - what level to set
their computer at and size of hash tables.
All very interesting. Bordering on paranoia, but interesting.
Suddenly 'ZONK!' it had all gone....
You don't need a computer - I reckon experienced players can
smell silicon by simply playing over a game.
Some box moves have a distinct non-human feel about them.
As for picking out one or two box moves from a complete game.
You would have to be good enough to spot the critical moves
where a box might used and conduct your test from these moves.
Or simply shrug your shoulders and say so what....
On another site (I think it's ChessWorld.com) they don't try to catch
computer cheats because their site gradings go so high they just
end up playing each other.
Originally posted by greenpawn34cheating accusations are not allowed in the forums, hence such posts (and threads) get removed. which is a pity when engine users are not removed. taking of the good and leaving the bad.
One minute I'm reading about these two guys are going to
catch an 'obvious cheat' (their words not mine).
And they were deciding what games to look at - what level to set
their computer at and size of hash tables.
All very interesting. Bordering on paranoia, but interesting.
Suddenly 'ZONK!' it had all gone....
You don't need a computer - ...[text shortened]... ter cheats because their site gradings go so high they just
end up playing each other.
the 'stench' of engine moves are probably one of the main reasons people start checking up on a player in the first place. -when a move doesn't make sense, it being a pointless engine move is more or less the only explanation. (strong) humans simply don't do pointless moves, there's always a plan behind them. even if that plan had a simple refutation (a blunder).
but a hunch is no proof. that's why statistical evidence is the way to go.
Originally posted by greenpawn34It was removed, no public accusations of cheating here at RHP.
One minute I'm reading about these two guys are going to
catch an 'obvious cheat' (their words not mine).
And they were deciding what games to look at - what level to set
their computer at and size of hash tables.
All very interesting. Bordering on paranoia, but interesting.
Suddenly 'ZONK!' it had all gone....
You don't need a computer - ...[text shortened]... ter cheats because their site gradings go so high they just
end up playing each other.
There is a link to a thread about reporting cheats.
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Originally posted by Phlabibitwhich is all good & fine. but as there doesn't seem to be much happening on the 3b banning side, such threads are inevitable. as they should be imo.
There is a link to a thread about reporting cheats.
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Originally posted by Fat LadyI have a hunch that Russ is reluctant to ban subscribing cheats. From a business standpoint their banning are $$$ losses. Russ is first and foremost a businessman, his chess skills are lacking 😳 . Maybe Russ is willing to see what happens if he can collect from cheats without losing too many flesh and blood players. Has there been a mass exodus since the dismantling of the mod squad? I haven't seen it. granted I am only familiar with the regular posters in the forums. And from what I see is they are staying. Many I assume holding on because of the "promise" of improvement in the future. I think that a way to deal with the issue of cheating is to have suspicions very open, and limit the cloak and dagger approach. Try givving feedback on opponents like the way ebay does with buyers and sellers.
There is a process for handling cheating allegations on RHP:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/gallicrow/CheatingAllegations.jpg
Originally posted by cheshirecatstevensDon't forget; potentially banning a titled player too.
I have a hunch that Russ is reluctant to ban subscribing cheats. From a business standpoint their banning are $$$ losses. Russ is first and foremost a businessman, his chess skills are lacking 😳 . Maybe Russ is willing to see what happens if he can collect from cheats without losing too many flesh and blood players. Has there been a mass exodus ...[text shortened]... r approach. Try givving feedback on opponents like the way ebay does with buyers and sellers.
Not good publicity for the site perhaps?
Originally posted by cheshirecatstevenscount the number of subs, then multiply that with the price of subscription. it's not that much money. I suppose the bulk of the revenue is raked in with the ads.
I have a hunch that Russ is reluctant to ban subscribing cheats. From a business standpoint their banning are $$$ losses. Russ is first and foremost a businessman, his chess skills are lacking 😳 . Maybe Russ is willing to see what happens if he can collect from cheats without losing too many flesh and blood players. Has there been a mass exodus ...[text shortened]... r approach. Try givving feedback on opponents like the way ebay does with buyers and sellers.
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Originally posted by PhlabibitThen why are some users allowed to put forward cheating accusations several times?
It was removed, no public accusations of cheating here at RHP.
There is a link to a thread about reporting cheats.
Thread 96375