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PAWN RIOT VS The Forum Move 2

PAWN RIOT VS The Forum Move 2

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A. 2. ... d6 14 votes
B. 2. ... Nc6 13 votes
C. 2. ... e6 7 votes
D. 2. ... a6
E. 2. ... g6
F. 2. ... Nf6 1 vote
G. 2. ... b6
H. 2. ... h5 1 vote

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I vote 2...d6

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A. 2. ... d6 15 votes
B. 2. ... Nc6 13 votes
C. 2. ... e6 7 votes
D. 2. ... a6
E. 2. ... g6
F. 2. ... Nf6 1 vote
G. 2. ... b6
H. 2. ... h5 1 vote

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Gotta be Nc6

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Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics
Yes, but is the group as a whole ready for a game where black sits back patiently move after move hoping for a d5 or b5 pawn break?

It can be rather passive.

Not that I'm knocking the hedgehog. As I said, I have studied it and like it. If I'm not mistaken, Walter Browne is nearly unbeatable with the system.
In hedgehog lines, or sometimes e5 break. 🙂

Well probably the group is not ready - I was not intending to promote it one way or the other but in Schevinengen/Najdorf lines with early a4 it is not so easy to avoid except I think sometimes by Dragon - correct me if I'm wrong, I could be, I'm not great on opening theory.

Of course if white wants a positional contest in a Sicilian, he can pretty much get it in any Sicilian line - although these positional contests are inherently more drawish and less favorable for white.

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Originally posted by Yuga
In hedgehog lines, or sometimes e5 break. 🙂

Well probably the group is not ready - I was not intending to promote it one way or the other but in Schevinengen/Najdorf lines with early a4 it is not so easy to avoid except I think sometimes by Dragon - correct me if I'm wrong, I could be, I'm not great on opening theory.

Of course if white wants a positi ...[text shortened]... - although these positional contests are inherently more drawish and less favorable for white.
Early a4, what is your point Yuga?
It is usually around the 10th move of his that the White plays it, and the Black is ok in many Scheveningen tabiya (ie he has 0-0 and forwarded his Bs on e6 and e7 and his Horseys on f6 and c6 along with a7, while the White has his Bs on e2 and e3, his ks on c3 and d4, his pawns on e4 and f4, his King on h1 in order to avoid pins and his Rook developed on f1). What is the problem?

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Originally posted by black beetle
Early a4, what is your point Yuga?
It is usually around the 10th move of his that the White plays it, and the Black is ok in many Scheveningen tabiya (ie he has 0-0 and forwarded his Bs on e6 and e7 and his Horseys on f6 and c6 along with a7, while the White has his Bs on e2 and e3, his ks on c3 and d4, his pawns on e4 and f4, his King on h1 in order to avoid pins and his Rook developed on f1). What is the problem?
Black's fine.

I simply made the point that a Hedgehog structure is somewhat likely in some Scheveningens as in the game I posted previously. I thought this was a point of note since the team should be prepared for such an eventuality.

http://www.queensac.com/chessblog/bookgames/polugaevsky/kasparov1985.htm

Okay, another line:

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 e6
3. d4 cxd4
4. Nxd4 Nf6
5. Nc3 d6
6. f4 a6
7. Be2 Be7 [ now if b5 Bf3]
8. a4 Qc7
9. O-O O-O
10. Be3

And again now I think Hedgehog structure is likely. There is no problem! It is simply that this sort of positions that result from the above line can be difficult for Black - strong positional knowledge is required to play such positions.

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A. 2. ... d6 15 votes
B. 2. ... Nc6 14 votes
C. 2. ... e6 7 votes
D. 2. ... a6
E. 2. ... g6
F. 2. ... Nf6 1 vote
G. 2. ... b6
H. 2. ... h5 1 vote

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Originally posted by Yuga
Black's fine.

I simply made the point that a Hedgehog structure is somewhat likely in some Scheveningens as in the game I posted previously. I thought this was a point of note since the team should be prepared for such an eventuality.

http://www.queensac.com/chessblog/bookgames/polugaevsky/kasparov1985.htm

Okay, another line:

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 ...[text shortened]... ne can be difficult for Black - strong positional knowledge is required to play such positions.
I see! We agree Yuga pal;

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I vote 2... g6, not that it will be voted in anyway, but the Hyper Accelerated dragon is a flexible choice because it can lead to some lesser known lines but still have the flexibility of transposing to the accelerated or regular dragon.

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A. 2. ... d6 15 votes
B. 2. ... Nc6 14 votes
C. 2. ... e6 7 votes
D. 2. ... a6
E. 2. ... g6 1 vote
F. 2. ... Nf6 1 vote
G. 2. ... b6
H. 2. ... h5 1 vote

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Originally posted by chesskid001
I vote 2... g6, not that it will be voted in anyway, but the Hyper Accelerated dragon is a flexible choice because it can lead to some lesser known lines but still have the flexibility of transposing to the accelerated or regular dragon.
i really wanted to vote for this move as well, but politically it made no sense, in that the majority would not go for it, therefore i settled for the hope of playing the accelerated instead.

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I go for 2) ..., Nc6

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A. 2. ... d6 15 votes
B. 2. ... Nc6 15 votes
C. 2. ... e6 7 votes
D. 2. ... a6
E. 2. ... g6 1 vote
F. 2. ... Nf6 1 vote
G. 2. ... b6
H. 2. ... h5 1 vote

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I vote e6

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