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Originally posted by sonhouse
If Earth is flat why can't I see the Eiffel tower here in Pennsylvania?
You need better glasses. Maybe it's time to get a new prescription.

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Originally posted by lemon lime
You need better glasses. Maybe it's time to get a new prescription.
So I can see it if I have a telescope?

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
I don't think you appreciate the situation in its fullest.
The question that has been repeatedly and consistently put forth is this:

[b]WHY WOULD NASA LIE ABOUT ANYTHING?


If everything they are doing, and everything they are presenting are, indeed, factual events and actions, what is the purpose behind lying about any of them?[/b]
Here is the reason using lasers to find the curvature of Earth fails:

https://www.metabunk.org/earth-curvature-refraction-experiments-debunking-flat-concave-earth.t6042/

Light gets refracted by the atmosphere and you have to introduce a factor that can under the best conditions, eliminate that error and give a true curve.

Now even kids can do the ancient experiment that was done with wells:

http://www.astro.princeton.edu/~dns/teachersguide/MeasECAct.html

BTW, you are about 150 years behind times, all the light related experiments were done long ago, proving why you see further than the true curve of Earth would indicate, namely atmospheric refraction which makes the distance measurements about 15 percent longer than it actually is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_Level_experiment

So it's not only NASA who is lying but these scientists long dead.

Earth is not a good example of a place to use lasers to measure the curvature of the planet.

The place to do that is on airless bodies like Mercury, the moon and similar bodies with no atmosphere.

The only thing that would change an accurate measurement there would be the gravitational lens effect, which on the sun changes the path of light going by the surface of the sun by a tiny amount, 1.75 arc second, about one part in 600,000 or so.

On the moon, that deflection would be pretty much unmeasurable so it can be ignored.

Find a flat surface on the moon, say the mare and set up the same experiment, the lasers will show very accurately the curvature of the moon. No refraction so the light beam goes essentially in a straight line unlike on Earth where refraction bends the path of light downwards so you can see it many more miles than you would without the refraction.

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Here is an image of the ISS with Earth curvature clearly showing. This is not a fish eye image, the line of the ISS is perfectly straight and the Earth is curved. No way you can get out of that:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap160418.html

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Here is an image of the ISS with Earth curvature clearly showing. This is not a fish eye image, the line of the ISS is perfectly straight and the Earth is curved. No way you can get out of that:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap160418.html
Game over. Get on the bus.

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Game over. Get on the bus.
I have no doubt he will come up with yet another stupid non-response:

YOU TELL ME WHY NASA LIES.

Or some variation on that theme.

He just doesn't get the refraction effect of using a laser, thinking a laser always goes in a straight line.

It would on the moon.

So his answer there would be, till someone on the moon does that experiment, I will believe Earth is flat.

Or strawman #2, the moon may be a sphere but Earth is still flat.

What do you want to bet something like that comes out?

Oh yeah, I forgot another paranoid scene:
THAT PHOTO IS TOTALLY FAKED. Photoshopped all the way.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
WHY NASA LIES
HASSLE? I YAWN.. 😴

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
[b]HASSLE? I YAWN.. 😴[/b]
Me no sure what you are saying.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Me no sure what you are saying.
(anagram)

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Originally posted by lemon lime
(anagram)
Ah so grasshopper, very amuzerating.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Here is an image of the ISS with Earth curvature clearly showing. This is not a fish eye image, the line of the ISS is perfectly straight and the Earth is curved. No way you can get out of that:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap160418.html
I love APoD.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
I have no doubt he will come up with yet another stupid non-response:

YOU TELL ME WHY NASA LIES.

Or some variation on that theme.

Oh yeah, I forgot another paranoid scene:
THAT PHOTO IS TOTALLY FAKED. Photoshopped all the way.
Like those fools who still ask "Why is the flag on the moon blowing in the wind if there's no wind on the moon?"


Originally posted by Suzianne
Like those fools who still ask "Why is the flag on the moon blowing in the wind if there's no wind on the moon?"
Don't forget to reply here as well: http://www.timeforchess.com/forum/general/11-22-63.168371/page-3

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Like those fools who still ask "Why is the flag on the moon blowing in the wind if there's no wind on the moon?"
Stephen Fry once blew away all these moon conspiracy theories (about wind and shadows etc). Probably on-line somewhere.

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