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Are most people idiots?

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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
But at one time I think it was the name given to a person with a mental age below seven????
Is it not possible that most people have a mental age below seven?

Should I take back your prize?

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Originally posted by Nordlys
Etymologically speaking, the word "idiot" doesn't say anything about intelligence. It originally meant a person who kept to him-/herself.
And the Idiot Savant?

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Originally posted by dottewell
Is it not possible that most people have a mental age below seven?
It depends on your definition of "mental age below seven". I don't like this "mental age" thing anyway, it just doesn't work this way. An adult with severe mental retardation may be like a 3 y.o. in some respects, like a 10 y.o. in some other respects, and maybe even above his true age in some areas. And a very gifted adult can also be like a 3 y.o. in some respects.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
It depends on your definition of "mental age below seven". I don't like this "mental age" thing anyway, it just doesn't work this way. An adult with severe mental retardation may be like a 3 y.o. in some respects, like a 10 y.o. in some other respects, and maybe even above his true age in some areas. And a very gifted adult can also be like a 3 y.o. in some respects.
Okay, clever, complete this sentence:

"It is logically impossible for most of the population to have a mental age of below the age of seven, if by 'mental age below the age of seven' we mean __________."

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Originally posted by dottewell
Is it not possible that most people have a mental age below seven?

Should I take back your prize?
I think it's mainly young children who have a mental age below seven. 😉

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Originally posted by Nordlys
It depends on your definition of "mental age below seven".
Supposedly chimpanzees have a mental age of five. For some reason that has always impressed me.

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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
I think it's mainly young children who have a mental age below seven. 😉
Complete my sentence and you can have your prize.

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Originally posted by dottewell
Okay, clever, complete this sentence:

"It is logically impossible for most of the population to have a mental age of below the age of seven, if by 'mental age below the age of seven' we mean __________."
Hmm, that's actually not as easy as it sounds. Let's forget for a moment that the population might consist mainly of people under seven... I think the way "mental age" is determined is by taking an average, i.e. if a big number of randomly chosen 7 y.o. take a test, and the average score is, say, 100, this number will be used to determine the mental age of a person. So if a 100 y.o. scores 100 on that test, he has a mental age of 7. But now comes the funny bit, it's not logically impossible for most of the population to have a mental age of below the age of seven if we use that method. There could be a population in which the majority is mentally retarded, while a small number is extremely gifted and drags the average up.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Supposedly chimpanzees have a mental age of five. For some reason that has always impressed me.
What about baboons?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Supposedly chimpanzees have a mental age of five. For some reason that has always impressed me.
I'd be impressed if it was a new born chimp that had a mental age of five. If the chimp in question was 30 however....

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Originally posted by Nordlys
Hmm, that's actually not as easy as it sounds. Let's forget for a moment that the population might consist mainly of people under seven... I think the way "mental age" is determined is by taking an average, i.e. if a big number of randomly chosen 7 y.o. take a test, and the average score is, say, 100, this number will be used to determine the mental age of a ...[text shortened]... ty is mentally retarded, while a small number is extremely gifted and drags the average up.
Exactly. So can the sentence be completed?

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Originally posted by Nordlys
What about baboons?
Although we, ahem, they share reasoning traits with chimpanzees and human beings, ascertaining their mental age is problematic. At a guess, three.

There's some humour in this article:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2001/10/14/national1901EDT0566.DTL

Did you know that the he baboon was very admired in Egypt for its intelligence and sexual lustfulness? Baboon feces was an ingredient in Egyptian aphrodisiac ointments.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Although we, ahem, they share reasoning traits with chimpanzees and human beings, ascertaining their mental age is problematic. At a guess, three.

There's some humour in this article:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2001/10/14/national1901EDT0566.DTL

Did you know that the he baboon was very admired in Egypt for its ...[text shortened]... gence and sexual lustfulness? Baboon feces was an ingredient in Egyptian aphrodisiac ointments.
Oh, my goodness, how could someone get stiffy with that smell !?!?!? 😲

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Originally posted by rhb
I'd be impressed if it was a new born chimp that had a mental age of five. If the chimp in question was 30 however....
That's assuming we are talking about five years here. Maybe it really means that they have the mental age of five humans (probably five humans who are the same age). I am not sure what it means to have the mental age of several people, but it somehow sounds intriguing.

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Originally posted by dottewell
Exactly. So can the sentence be completed?
"It is logically impossible for most of the population to have a mental age of below the age of seven, if by 'mental age below the age of seven' we mean 'mental age below the mental age of the majority of the population'." 😉

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