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@philokalia saidWhy don't you read what he actually said, you lying POS?
... Like anyone thought they were gonna overthrow the government that night, Dumbledwarf.
You do not even understand reality, though, and potentiality - so of course how could you begin to understand your opponnents motives?
The evidence is overwhelming that he did exactly what the seditious conspiracy statute forbids. You are either as blind a fool as Biggs or as contemptible a liar as Trump to deny this obvious fact.
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@no1marauder saidIt is acknowledged that this was not a proud boys event, that there were no proud boys attending as proud boys. Your continued misrepresentation of this known fact reinforces your distorted, biased, one eyed (and therefore worthless) view of the events.
Only the most deluded of imbeciles can watch the footage of what occurred on January 6th, 2021 and say the transparent lies you are parroting, never mind expect any non-fool to take them seriously.
The mob attacked police and forcibly stormed the Capitol in an attempt to stop the certification of the EC vote or even force Congress to certify the loser as the winner. An ...[text shortened]... dated certification.
All your smoke and lies doesn't change those facts and didn't fool the jury.
If Biggs were the victim of a con man that makes this vindictive punishment so much the worse, try to define your position rather than grasping in every different direction at one, rather trying to cast a net over everything.
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@no1marauder saidHey bro, how about you calm down and grab the heart medication before yuor anxiety blows out your backside.
Why don't you read what he actually said, you lying POS?
The evidence is overwhelming that he did exactly what the seditious conspiracy statute forbids. You are either as blind a fool as Biggs or as contemptible a liar as Trump to deny this obvious fact.
The evidence is UNDERWHELMING, in every single regard, to everyone who hasn't drank the Koom-Aid supplied by Hunter Biden's veined cyclops after getting footworked by a discount coke 'tute.
"Seditious conspiracy" is completley misapplied here and certainly would never pass the Oliver Wendell Holmes test - you probably know that name, right? When you were a law student with bright eyes seeking to upload American norms of justice back in the 1970s, you may have even contemplated the glory of the days when men actually believed in the First Amendment...
Now you are a mentally mongrelized Euronormiefraud whose concept of justice is nailing some working class bro to the post of public humiliation for 15+ years for the crime of organizing some boys going down to DC.
This is the colonna infame of American history and you are acting proud of it because, instead of your heart growing and staying true to yoru values, your gnarled hands and jagged dentures chewed to pieces the ideals you once believed in.
Here you still are -- gnawing on American liberties , trying to get that last morsel of cartilege off of it.
GO to Ukraine.
@no1marauder saidThere was no plan, realistic or otherwise, to overthrow the most powerful goobermint in the world. You have not provided any evidence of such and there's a good reason for that. Not some big talk by people caught up in the adrenalin of the moment, things like. Group A meets at rally point Charlie Xray, food and water rations to be landed at point Golf Pier, Group Peru Bravo to cause a diversion 5 clicks west of blah, blah, blah.
Why don't you read what he actually said, you lying POS?
The evidence is overwhelming that he did exactly what the seditious conspiracy statute forbids. You are either as blind a fool as Biggs or as contemptible a liar as Trump to deny this obvious fact.
NO PLAN
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@no1marauder saidNow the nation with the mightiest military in the world - whose President has bragged that an AR-15 would not be enough is acting as if guys with hockey sticks and pepper spray were serious threats to democratic transition of power because they made a few ratty fat cucks on the pig line of the protest back off.
Only the most deluded of imbeciles can watch the footage of what occurred on January 6th, 2021 and say the transparent lies you are parroting, never mind expect any non-fool to take them seriously.
The mob attacked police and forcibly stormed the Capitol in an attempt to stop the certification of the EC vote or even force Congress to certify the loser as the winner. An ...[text shortened]... dated certification.
All your smoke and lies doesn't change those facts and didn't fool the jury.
The rest of the cops waved in the protesters - remember?
Likely part of a legalized setup agreed upon later: trap as many of the protesters as possible in the building so that we can charge them all as terrorists later...
Sadly, the fed prosecutorial skunkklerk army was only able to draw up these "seditious conspriacy!" charges against a handful, and they were only able to get a few with those 10+ sentences they were begging for
Embarrassing
Bethca could've done better, Marauder!
you've been into the gutting of American civil liberties for a minute now.
@wajoma saidAbout 100 Proud Boys congregated at the base of the Washington Monument at 10 AM that morning as previously arranged.
It is acknowledged that this was not a proud boys event, that there were no proud boys attending as proud boys. Your continued misrepresentation of this known fact reinforces your distorted, biased, one eyed (and therefore worthless) view of the events.
If Biggs were the victim of a con man that makes this vindictive punishment so much the worse, try to define your positi ...[text shortened]... ther than grasping in every different direction at one, rather trying to cast a net over everything.
Paragraph 70. https://www.justice.gov/media/1225801/dl?inline
Biggs was one of them and he and another Proud Boy used a bullhorn to direct the group.
Paragraph 71
That Biggs was a fool doesn't lessen the seriousness of his criminal actions.
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@no1marauder saidNot as Proud Boys. As I've said, you hanging onto this is an example of how close minded you've become on this topic.
About 100 Proud Boys congregated at the base of the Washington Monument at 10 AM that morning as previously arranged.
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@wajoma saidThey were directed to be there by Proud Boy leadership and also told not to wear Proud Boy colors. Paragraph 71
Not as Proud Boys. As I've said, you hanging onto this is an example of how close minded you've become on this topic.
The night before Biggs was sending texts informing others of "the plan". Paragraph 65
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@no1marauder saidIf you are going to hang on this point then you need to acknowledge there was a Proud Boys event planned for that evening, which doesn't leave much time to overthrow the worlds most powerful goobermint and install a puppet gummint.
About 100 Proud Boys congregated at the base of the Washington Monument at 10 AM that morning as previously arranged.
Paragraph 70. https://www.justice.gov/media/1225801/dl?inline
Biggs was one of them and he and another Proud Boy used a bullhorn to direct the group.
Paragraph 71
That Biggs was a fool doesn't lessen the seriousness of his criminal actions.
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@philokalia saidYou sound like the conspiracy moron, Metal Brain.
Now the nation with the mightiest military in the world - whose President has bragged that an AR-15 would not be enough is acting as if guys with hockey sticks and pepper spray were serious threats to democratic transition of power because they made a few ratty fat cucks on the pig line of the protest back off.
The rest of the cops waved in the protesters - reme ...[text shortened]... done better, Marauder!
you've been into the gutting of American civil liberties for a minute now.
Maybe network feeds from the US don't work as well in South Korea, but there is ample video evidence that the vast majority of those who breached the Capitol did so by violently breaking through police lines and then smashing windows to gain entry.
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@no1marauder saidHaha, your most desperate post yet, the words 'the plan' in quotation marks no less. 'the plan' is to park the car at 73rd and main st. 'The plan' is to attend a Michale Graves concert that evening. 'The plan' is to have coffee at the little cafe down by the river. Everytime the words 'the' and 'plan' are used in conjunction with each other one does not expect to lose 17 years of their life.
They were directed to be there by Proud Boy leadership and also told not to wear Proud Boy colors. Paragraph 71
The night before Biggs was sending texts informing others of "the plan". Paragraph 65
@wajoma saidAs I already pointed out several times, there'd be no need to install a "puppet government"; just have the Congress certify Trump the winner by ignoring the actual State certifications. You think Trump would have done anything to stop that? It took him hours to even tell them to leave the Capitol.
If you are going to hang on this point then you need to acknowledge there was a Proud Boys event planned for that evening, which doesn't leave much time to overthrow the worlds most powerful goobermint and install a puppet gummint.
And then your Proud Boys could go out and drink beer and grab each other's asses to their heart's content.
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@no1marauder saidA very simple math exercise: How many entered and how many broken windows were there?
You sound like the conspiracy moron, Metal Brain.
Maybe network feeds from the US don't work as well in South Korea, but there is ample video evidence that the vast majority of those who breached the Capitol did so by violently breaking through police lines and then smashing windows to gain entry.
@wajoma saidYou are aware that many people can enter one broken window?
A very simple math exercise: How many entered and how many broken windows were there?
I could pull up the video AGAIN (as I've done at least a dozen times) of the mob with the Shaman near the front smashing through two windows and then opening a door from the inside.
Will that be necessary?
EDIT: I suppose you could say that quite a few entered through doors that were opened by other rioters who had gained access through a broken window.
@no1marauder saidNo1 said "...the vast majority of those who breached the Capitol did so by violently breaking through police lines and then smashing windows to gain entry."
You are aware that many people can enter one broken window?
I could pull up the video AGAIN (as I've done at least a dozen times) of the mob with the Shaman near the front smashing through two windows and then opening a door from the inside.
Will that be necessary?
Go ahead and show your videos ( even though you've claimed a number of times that you yourself do not go to vid links) and we'll see the 'vast majority' simply wandered through open doors.
A small point you may argue, but a very good indicator of how the events have become exaggerated and distorted in your mind's eye.