Originally posted by @fmfThe man is an arrogant deceitful false teacher that leads gullible fools to their doom.
You are so evasive. If you just want to lecture people in a self-important way do it on a blog. This OP has drawn attention to something incoherent about your torturer god ideology: you seem set on filibustering your way out of it ~ rather than debating it or discussing it..
Christ is in his mouth but far from his heart.
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Originally posted by @rajk999How far is Christ from my heart when I believe this?
The man is an arrogant deceitful false teacher that leads gullible fools to their doom.
Christ is in his mouth but far from his heart.
" But of the Son, Your throne, O God is forever and ever, and the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your kingdom." (Hebrews 1:8)
When I believe this and you teach Christ's throne is not permanent, tell me how FAR away my heart is from Christ.
And how much "CLOSER" will my heart be to Christ if I take in your LIE that Christ's reign is temporary ?
Originally posted by @sonship
How far is Christ from my heart when I believe this?
[b] " But of the Son, Your throne, O God is forever and ever, and the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your kingdom." (Hebrews 1:8)
When I believe this and you teach Christ's throne is not permanent, tell me how FAR away my heart is from Christ.
And how much "CLOSER" will my heart be to Christ if I take in your LIE that Christ's reign is temporary ?[/b]Christ is in the heart of all who preach and promote righteousness and good works.
Those who focus on doctrine, bible interpretation and mouth worship do not know Christ.
There are atheists among us here who are closer to Christ than you are.
Originally posted by @eladarStart a thread about Judas if you want to and I'll get involved if it interests me.
I was asking you. Was Judas a Christian?
Meawhile these two questions are for sonship and are in response to something he said to me:
Christians get "saved" even if they continue "sinning". True or false?
A "saved" Christian can lose their "saved" status. True or false?
Originally posted by @sonshipI know you love the doctrine of eternal suffering; it’s in your nature to do so.
Remember that you said that you were a tolerant person.
You can tolerate different interpretations of the Gospel from Unitarianism.
[quote] - Jesus knocking on the door of a sinners heart calls out: “let me in”
- Sinner replies: “why?”
- Jesus persists: “so I can save you”
- Sinner is inquisitive: “save me from what?”
- Jesus closes: “fr ...[text shortened]... e to save His people (people trusting in Him, His believers; His followers) FROM ... their sins.
Originally posted by @divegeesterHe is just wrong about this eternal suffering matter yes. Its not a crime to be wrong .. duh .. obviously neither is it immoral ... who said anything about morality?
I disagree. He’s just wrong and doesn’t want to face it. It’s not a crime nor is it immoral.
The mans overall focus is contrary to the teachings of Christ, who preached extensively about good works, righteous living as a the only route to the Kingdom of God. In every case where Jesus makes a definitive statement which demonstrates how critical good works is, sonship twists it so that the teachings of Christ are perverted. The man is a fraud and misleads the weakminded.
29 Dec 17
Originally posted by @rajk999We can disagree of course, it’s fine. But I think you are wrong, I wouldn’t say sonship is a fraud, he just been caught up in some teachings which are wrong and he can’t let go of them. I just don’t see the Machiavellian character you seem to.
He is just wrong about this eternal suffering matter yes. Its not a crime to be wrong .. duh .. obviously neither is it immoral ... who said anything about morality?
The mans overall focus is contrary to the teachings of Christ, who preached extensively about good works, righteous living as a the only route to the Kingdom of God. In every case where Jes ...[text shortened]... t so that the teachings of Christ are perverted. The man is a fraud and misleads the weakminded.