Were there dinosaurs on Noah’s ark?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Agreed.

Disagreed.

@carnivorum said
More laughable then believing that a frog turned into a prince?

More laughable than believing that a dino which still contains original soft tissue and which tests positive for C14 that that has been laying underground for 200 million years?

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Is the earth round/spherical or, as I think KellyJay believes…. Is it flat?

@divegeester said
Is the earth round/spherical or, as I think KellyJay believes…. Is it flat?

What do you think?

@carnivorum said
What do you think?

I’m asking you Sir?

@divegeester said
I’m asking you Sir?

I think the world is round.

What do you think?

@carnivorum said
I think the world is round.

What do you think?

In fairness, you think Noah went around collecting up baby dinosaurs.


Look, I appreciate the whole dinosaur thing creates problems for your biblical understanding, but you really do need to find a better argument if you want to be taken seriously by anybody over the age of 8.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
In fairness, you think Noah went around collecting up baby dinosaurs.


Look, I appreciate the whole dinosaur thing creates problems for your biblical understanding, but you really do need to find a better argument if you want to be taken seriously by anybody over the age of 8.

About 120 animals were mentioned in the bible, so if an imposing creature like dinosaurs were really around surely they would have gotten a mention as well, as they would have played a part in peoples lives.

@rajk999 said
About 120 animals were mentioned in the bible, so if an imposing creature like dinosaurs were really around surely they would have gotten a mention as well, as they would have played a part in peoples lives.

So they are mentioned:

"Look at Behemoth,
which I made along with you
and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16
What strength it has in its loins,
what power in the muscles of its belly!
17
Its tail sways like a cedar;
the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18
Its bones are tubes of bronze,
its limbs like rods of iron.
19
It ranks first among the works of God,
yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.
20
The hills bring it their produce,
and all the wild animals play nearby.
21
Under the lotus plants it lies,
hidden among the reeds in the marsh.
22
The lotuses conceal it in their shadow;
the poplars by the stream surround it.
23
A raging river does not alarm it;
it is secure, though the Jordan should surge against its mouth.
24
Can anyone capture it by the eyes,
or trap it and pierce its nose?
Can you pull in Leviathan with a fishhook
or tie down its tongue with a rope?
2
Can you put a cord through its nose
or pierce its jaw with a hook?
3
Will it keep begging you for mercy?
Will it speak to you with gentle words?
4
Will it make an agreement with you
for you to take it as your slave for life?
5
Can you make a pet of it like a bird
or put it on a leash for the young women in your house?
6
Will traders barter for it?
Will they divide it up among the merchants?
7
Can you fill its hide with harpoons
or its head with fishing spears?
8
If you lay a hand on it,
you will remember the struggle and never do it again!
9
Any hope of subduing it is false;
the mere sight of it is overpowering.
10
No one is fierce enough to rouse it."

Job 40-41

@carnivorum said
So they are mentioned:

"Look at Behemoth,
which I made along with you
and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16
What strength it has in its loins,
what power in the muscles of its belly!
17
Its tail sways like a cedar;
the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18
Its bones are tubes of bronze,
its limbs like rods of iron.
19
It ranks f ...[text shortened]...
the mere sight of it is overpowering.
10
No one is fierce enough to rouse it."

Job 40-41

Grasping at straws is what you are doing. Leviathan is also mentioned in Isaiah, and it is described as a sea dragon.

In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea. (Isaiah 27:1 KJV)

It certainly does not appear to be any dinosaur of any kind. God does not need to punish or slay innocent animals. So it appears that Leviathan could be another reference to Satan or one of the Devils angels.

Try again.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
In fairness, you think Noah went around collecting up baby dinosaurs.


Look, I appreciate the whole dinosaur thing creates problems for your biblical understanding, but you really do need to find a better argument if you want to be taken seriously by anybody over the age of 8.

The facts are very clear: The original soft tissue in dinos and the fact that they all test positive for C14, which is impossible when they are older than 100,000 years, totally rips the timelines of "hundreds of millions of years" to pieces, and with that the evolution theory.

Those are the hard facts.

@rajk999 said
Grasping at straws is what you are doing. Leviathan is also mentioned in Isaiah, and it is described as a sea dragon.

In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea. (Isaiah 27:1 KJV)

It certainly does not appear to b ...[text shortened]... ppears that Leviathan could be another reference to Satan or one of the Devils angels.

Try again.

And what is wrong with a sea dragon? You believe they didn't exist?

Job talks about two animals; the behemoth and the leviathan.

The leviathan is the sea monster, and the behemoth is the land monster.

@carnivorum said
The facts are very clear: The original soft tissue in dinos and the fact that they all test positive for C14, which is impossible when they are older than 100,000 years, totally rips the timelines of "hundreds of millions of years" to pieces, and with that the evolution theory.

Those are the hard facts.

In an article published in the journal PLoS One on July 20, 2008, researchers Thomas G. Kaye, Gary Gaugler and Zbigniew Sawlowicz conducted more than 200 hours of scanning electron microscope analysis on a variety of dinosaur fossils. It came to the conclusion that Schweitzer's samples contained framboids, and the apparent soft tissue was essentially pond scum. Through carbon dating, the team also determined that the material was modern, not prehistoric.

So much for your hard facts.

@carnivorum said
What do you think?

Fishing for insults?

@carnivorum said
And what is wrong with a sea dragon? You believe they didn't exist?

Job talks about two animals; the behemoth and the leviathan.

The leviathan is the sea monster, and the behemoth is the land monster.

Whales and woolly mammoths.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
In an article published in the journal PLoS One on July 20, 2008, researchers Thomas G. Kaye, Gary Gaugler and Zbigniew Sawlowicz conducted more than 200 hours of scanning electron microscope analysis on a variety of dinosaur fossils. It came to the conclusion that Schweitzer's samples contained framboids, and the apparent soft tissue was essentially pond scum. Throug ...[text shortened]... team also determined that the material was modern, not prehistoric.

So much for your hard facts.

That "pond scum" theory has been debunked long ago.

Everybody now agrees that it is original soft dinosaur tissue.