Originally posted by leunammiBumping Raj
Let me ask it this way.
Rajk999...First what Paul calls scripture not what Christians now call scripture [something worth thinking about]. Paul says to preach, correct, rebuke because the time will come when people will turn their ears from the truth.
You have established what you believe Paul calls scripture. What I am asking you i ...[text shortened]... Christians now call scripture? Is it the bible without the apocryphal books? Simple question.
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You have established what you believe Paul calls scripture. What I am asking you is, what is it that Christians now call scripture? Is it the bible without the apocryphal books or something else, perhaps a bible version? Simple question.
20 Dec 16
Originally posted by leunammiWhat Christians now call scripture? I guess the Bible - KJV 1873?
Bumping Raj
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You have established what you believe Paul calls scripture. What I am asking you is, what is it that Christians now call scripture? Is it the bible without the apocryphal books or something else, perhaps a bible version? Simple question.
Dont understand why you are asking me.
21 Dec 16
Originally posted by Rajk999
What Christians now call scripture? I guess the Bible - KJV 1873?
Dont understand why you are asking me.
First what Paul calls scripture is not what Christians now call scripture (something worth thinking about). Paul says to preach, correct, rebuke because the time will come when people will turn their ears from the truth.
What does Paul call scripture? What do Christians now call Scripture? Please explain what the difference is?
21 Dec 16
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneWhile I realize that I am the one who brought up 1 John, and then you pointed out that these are not the words of Jesus, what is the point of discussing the opinion of someone who is not Jesus?
Tell you what. Let's take one passage at a time. I'll narrow it down to the text that is most pertinent to our discussion:
[quote]1 John 3
4Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
6Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins has not seen him, neither known him.
8He that commits sin is of the de ...[text shortened]... ll that is being said there is "we are not to sin"? If not, what all do you think is being said?
But, to attempt an answer, the text seems to say that if you are reborn in Jesus, that you cannot sin. Emphasis on cannot.
Yet, it still doesn't seem possible to me.
Now, this is twice that I have attempted to answer your questions. If I am wrong, which is probable, then please reply with 'your answers and how you see it', and not more questions.
And again, if you have the scriptures where Jesus Himself taught that not sinning is possible, I would like to know.
21 Dec 16
Originally posted by leunammiHave you read the Septuagint? There are English versions of it.
First what Paul calls scripture is not what Christians now call scripture (something worth thinking about). Paul says to preach, correct, rebuke because the time will come when people will turn their ears from the truth.
What does Paul call scripture? What do Christians now call Scripture? Please explain what the difference is?
21 Dec 16
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneDo you think that someone apart from Jesus has lived a sinless life on earth?
Tell you what.
Either cite passages where, while He walked the Earth, Jesus taught that it is impossible for anyone to "keep his commands all the time" OR admit that you don't know of any.
If you do that, I'll address your question.