10 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009What, you mean your questions like "Are you wearing a bra and panties?" and "Did you create the account called Duchess64?"
I love how you never answer questions.
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10 Mar 18
Originally posted by @fmfWe’re not going to connect on this because you don’t give any credence to the idea that God’s Holy Spirit could indwell someone and change his or her heart and behavior and lead them.
So are adherents to the Christian religion required to engage in "regular and frequent reading of the Bible and prayer"?
But because we are still living in the flesh and have free will, our tendency will be to behave carnally, or in the flesh. So, yes, regular and frequent reading of the Bible and prayer strengthens the influence of the Spirit in our lives and keeps us within God’s will.
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10 Mar 18
Originally posted by @fmfWhen you’re simultaneously attacked by five people who falsely call you a liar and all other manner of invective and mock your mother, let’s see how you respond.
What, you mean your questions like "Are you wearing a bra and panties?" and "Did you create the account called Duchess64?"
I’ll freely admit I responded poorly. That was due to my being out of God’s Word and prayer. Had I been in God’s Word and prayer, I probably would have logged off and just ignored it.
10 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I am just asking you about whether there is a requirement to follow the Christian God's [or Jesus'] commandments. You seem to be saying, pretty unequivocally, the answer is 'no, there is no such requirement'. This must be an ideology from one of the 40,000 denominations I have never encountered because it is new to me.
We’re not going to connect on this because you don’t give any credence to the idea that God’s Holy Spirit could indwell someone and change his or her heart and behavior and lead them.
But because we are still living in the flesh and have free will, our tendency will be to behave carnally, or in the flesh. So, yes, regular and frequent reading of the B ...[text shortened]... and prayer strengthens the influence of the Spirit in our lives and keeps us within God’s will.
10 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Quote the posts of mine where I did this.
When you’re simultaneously attacked by five people who falsely call you a liar and all other manner of invective and mock your mother, let’s see how you respond.
10 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009What evidence is there that this has happened to you?
We’re not going to connect on this because you don’t give any credence to the idea that God’s Holy Spirit could indwell someone and change his or her heart and behavior and lead them.
10 Mar 18
Originally posted by @fmfJainism technically only promises complete secession from pain.
If I am not mistaken, virtually all religions seem to promise a life after death - in some form or other - in return for adherence. This suggests - to me at least -that such a supposed 'reward' simply reflects the rather understandable aspirations and insecurities of mortal humans - across every culture, and right down through history - rather than reflect any truth in the notion of supernatural immortality for human beings.
I also recollect something about how the primitive Babylonian religion has some elements that suggest that one simply goes to dwell below the earth and "eat dust," and that this hasn't been interpreted as some literal conscious state but seizing all functions. But I am really not able to talk much about this... because I am almost positive that this evolved into something else.
I do recollect there were a few native American tribes that believed nothing happens after death. I think it was the Blackfoot. There were creator gods, though.
10 Mar 18
Originally posted by @philokaliaSo?
Jainism technically only promises complete secession from pain.
I also recollect something about how the primitive Babylonian religion has some elements that suggest that one simply goes to dwell below the earth and "eat dust," and that this hasn't been interpreted as some literal conscious state but seizing all functions. But I am really not able to ...[text shortened]... eved nothing happens after death. I think it was the Blackfoot. There were creator gods, though.
10 Mar 18
Originally posted by @philokaliaWhat "obligations"?
But I would also say that atheism provides its own kind of comfort as it releases one from obligations, so to speak.
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10 Mar 18
Originally posted by @fmfI’m not saying that at all; you’re misrepresenting me.
I am just asking you about whether there is a requirement to follow the Christian God's [or Jesus'] commandments. You seem to be saying, pretty unequivocally, the answer is 'no, there is no such requirement'. This must be an ideology from one of the 40,000 denominations I have never encountered because it is new to me.
Before we initiated this conversation, you were speaking on salvation. So I said what was necessary for salvation.
I then said at least twice the process by which one stays within God’s will (or, in your parlance, keeps God’s commandments.) It’s not through human effort. Trying to keep God’s commandments by human effort is a guaranteed fail, which is why God instituted the sacrificial system to atone for sins in the Old Testament.
Staying within God’s will through the power of God’s indwelt Holy Spirit is a guaranteed success, which is why regular and frequent reading of the Bible and prayer are essential - so the influence of the Spirit in a believer’s life is as strong as possible.
10 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I was 'speaking' exactly this, in fact: If I am not mistaken, virtually all religions seem to promise a life after death - in some form or other - in return for adherence. This suggests - to me at least -that such a supposed 'reward' simply reflects the rather understandable aspirations and insecurities of mortal humans - across every culture, and right down through history - rather than reflect any truth in the notion of supernatural immortality for human beings.
Before we initiated this conversation, you were speaking on salvation. So I said what was necessary for salvation.
10 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Quote the post of mine where I called you "a liar and all other manner of invective and mocked your mother".
Did you miss where I said I was simultaneously attacked by five people?
Did you not see the “five” part of the sentence?
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10 Mar 18
Originally posted by @fmfSo you’re agreeing that you were speaking about salvation initially? That was why I responded in our initial posts as though your inquiry was still related to salvation.
I was 'speaking' exactly this, in fact: [b]If I am not mistaken, virtually all religions seem to promise a life after death - in some form or other - in return for adherence. This suggests - to me at least -that such a supposed 'reward' simply reflects the rather understandable aspirations and insecurities of mortal humans - across every culture, and right down ...[text shortened]... - rather than reflect any truth in the notion of supernatural immortality for human beings.[/b]