02 Nov 13
"Perception is the opinion or the view of a person on a subject. We only see what we are prepared to see. We gain our knowledge only through our perceptions. Whatever our mind is prepared to understand, our eyes perceive." -anon
“Our perception mainly depends on where we stand and what kind of a person we are” said C S Lewis.
The broader our perception, the wider is the world. This perception refers not only to the sight but also our attitude towards other’s perception. “It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive” said C W Lead beater." http://www.searchquotes.com/Faith/quotes/about/Perception/
“If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, Infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” -William Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell
“There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception.” -Aldous Huxley
“Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world.” -Arthur Schopenhauer
"The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” -Robertson Davies, Tempest-Tost
"Everything you add to the truth subtracts from the truth. When truth is discovered by someone else, it loses something of its attractiveness." -Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
02 Nov 13
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Originally posted by KellyJay"Why argue about something that changes
Listen it does not say anything about Rapture, but many people accept
it talks about an event that they call Rapture. We don't see the word
dinosaur in it either, but a couple of creatures are described that may
be some, that word wasn't even part of anyone's language when the
scripture was being written. Why argue about something that changes
nothing of note?
Kelly
nothing of note?"
Arguing about anything accomplishes nothing except to provide cheap entertainment for casual onlookers and bystanders; it's a counterproductive waste of time. What matters is our daily apprehension of unassailable facts and absolute truth.
02 Nov 13
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyBrother I have no issues with you, even if we disagree on this point!
Omnipotent/Omniscient God does create; allow chaos; and restore in His own perfect time consistent with His perfect plan. It's a colossal mistake to summarily dismiss biblical truths we haven't yet been taught and, therefore, fail to understand.
🙂
Kelly
02 Nov 13
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Originally posted by KellyJayKelly, if you're motivated to pursue the subject further, please go to the web site given below. Access Publications on the menu bar; then, Categorical Listings from the drop down menu; there you'll see a brief summary of the publication "Creation, Chaos, Restoration" (available free of charge, without follow up contact or obligation). http://rbthieme.org/
Yes! 🙂
I think people have lost the abiity to agree to disagree sometimes over
little things.
Kelly
Footnote: This publication (and others by the author) is also available on Amazon for a nominal charge, expressly against the wishes of its publisher: http://www.amazon.com/Creation-chaos-restoration-R-Thieme/product-reviews/1557640122
"Financial Policy: There is no charge for any material from R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries. Anyone who desires Bible teaching can receive our books, DVDs, MP3 CDs and tapes without obligation. God provides Bible doctrine. We wish to reflect His grace.... " There's a second paragraph which reiterates this Financial Policy which has been in place since the 1960's.
02 Nov 13
Originally posted by King Tiger...which is why I am not an atheist. Thank you for corroborating this.
Far more died at the hands of Atheism in the 20th century then the previous 19 centuries combined from Christians.
King Tiger, you seem an intelligent person, and I hope, therefore, that your academic scholasticism is matched by a healthy dose of common sense. I do not hate anyone, because as the Lord Buddha taught: hate is not conquered by hate. Hate is conquered by love. I am not a Buddhist either, for that matter, but this statement seems to me to contain an eternal truth.
I am an educator. I take young minds and I allow them to develop with love and joy and beauty. I do not stuff them with my own thoughts, because, as Kahlil Gibran observed in The Prophet "they have their own thoughts".
On the matter of Young Earth Creationism, just to put you in the picture, I will readily admit that I am not a scientist, I have no specialist knowledge, I do not fully understand the chemistry and biology that have been discussed in my thread. And I am also not a Christian - by which I mean that I do not believe in the Immaculate Comception, Christ's divinity, the Resurrection and the Assumption into Heaven. I enjoy and reread many parts of the Bible, but I view Genesis as largely mythological.
So, about teaching YEC. Yes, my common sense tells me that it is a crime. That statement is not said with hate or enmity, it is said reasonably and peacefully. Why is it a crime? Because, as an educator, I will not condone the inculcation of what my my common sense tells me is lies in a young child's mind. I believe, if you will, that in the case of Creationism vs Evolution evidence so far outweighs faith.
You may accuse me, rightfully, of poetic hyperbole for emphasis in the "sexual abuse" statement, but not of hatred or ignorance.
02 Nov 13
Originally posted by Pianoman1For a crime to be done a law must be in place. Without a law you have
...which is why I am not an atheist. Thank you for corroborating this.
King Tiger, you seem an intelligent person, and I hope, therefore, that your academic scholasticism is matched by a healthy dose of common sense. I do not hate anyone, because as the Lord Buddha taught: hate is not conquered by hate. Hate is conquered by love. I am not a Buddhist eit ...[text shortened]... f poetic hyperbole for emphasis in the "sexual abuse" statement, but not of hatred or ignorance.
your (this is not something I approve of), but you cannot say a crime was
committed.
Kelly
02 Nov 13
Originally posted by KellyJayOh, I see you're taking the word "crime" literally. I have always intended a metaphorical interpretation - the action of perceiving something as wrong.
For a crime to be done a law must be in place. Without a law you have
your (this is not something I approve of), but you cannot say a crime was
committed.
Kelly
02 Nov 13
Originally posted by Pianoman1I cannot read your mind, sorry. I am also not attempting to be insulting
Oh, I see you're taking the word "crime" literally. I have always intended a metaphorical interpretation - the action of perceiving something as wrong.
in saying that either, forgive me if it comes off that way.
Kelly
02 Nov 13
Originally posted by KellyJayNo offence taken, Kelly Jay. We may be on opposite sides of the spectrum, but you have always been courteous and considered in your views.
I cannot read your mind, sorry. I am also not attempting to be insulting
in saying that either, forgive me if it comes off that way.
Kelly
02 Nov 13
Originally posted by RJHindsOh, this is so TEDIOUS!
Don't use the word "crime" then.
The Instructor
To save you the trouble of looking it up for yourself, I will quote from my Oxford Dictionary:
Crime: an action or activity considered to be evil, shameful or wrong.
As in: "it''s a crime to keep Willy in a tank"
I shall, therefore, continue to use the "crime" in this context, whether you like it or not.
Get over it.
02 Nov 13
Originally posted by Pianoman1Thank you, I'd differ on my ALWAYS being courteous and considered
No offence taken, Kelly Jay. We may be on opposite sides of the spectrum, but you have always been courteous and considered in your views.
since I know I can be a horse's ___ from time to time, but thank you
none-the-less.
Kelly
02 Nov 13
Originally posted by Pianoman1No thanks.
Oh, this is so TEDIOUS!
To save you the trouble of looking it up for yourself, I will quote from my Oxford Dictionary:
Crime: an action or activity considered to be evil, shameful or wrong.
As in: "it''s a crime to keep Willy in a tank"
I shall, therefore, continue to use the "crime" in this context, whether you like it or not.
Get over it.
The Instructor