16 May 15
Originally posted by whodeyHow do you make sense of 'why and how' there is suffering?
The debate about the existence of hell, or the lack thereof, is simply a continuation of the old question, if there is a loving God, why does suffering exist.
Well guess what kids, suffering does exist. I know this is a shock to most, but now we must make sense of why and how?
Those that cannot fathom God allowing suffering and refuse to accept him because of it will reject him. It's just that simple.
Originally posted by twhiteheadyou are talking nonsense AGAIN - murder implies that the condemned were innocent rather than judicially executed. No one ever thinks of murder in terms of a judicial execution unless the condemned were innocent, you are talking PANTS.
No, it doesn't. It usually implies that the killing was deliberate and illegal. It says nothing whatsoever about the innocence of the victim. If you met Hitler on the street, knew who he was, and killed him, that would be murder.
If a government executes someone for political reasons, or due to some failure of the justice system executes an innocent pers ...[text shortened]... killed in war, those are typically not called murder (although one may choose to label them so).
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWrong. I, along with many others, view any and all executions as murder.
you are talking nonsense AGAIN - murder implies that the condemned were innocent rather than judicially executed. No one ever thinks of murder in terms of a judicial execution unless the condemned were innocent, you are talking PANTS.
Your claim is thus completely refuted.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf talking pants were a linguistical and physiological possibility, you sir would have an abundance of pants.
No one ever thinks of murder in terms of a judicial execution unless the condemned were innocent, you are talking PANTS.
Perhaps you could sell them as you go door to door...
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Originally posted by whodeyThat whole 'freewill' defense is bull crap; a complete cop out.
Why do people suffer?
It usually boils down to making poor decisions. Either people make it for themselves or people mistreat others.
Sure, it may explain suffering where humans have had a hand in it, but what about suffering not caused by poor decisions or humans mistreating each other? What about the child dying of cancer or the village wiped out by an earthquake? If you're gonna try and explain away human suffering and how this doesn't disprove the existence of an all powerful, all loving God then at least get to the meat of the issue.
(P.S Is Obama to blame?)
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeIs it?
That whole 'freewill' defense is bull crap; a complete cop out.
Sure, it may explain suffering where humans have had a hand in it, but what about suffering not caused by poor decisions or humans mistreating each other? What about the child dying of cancer or the village wiped out by an earthquake? If you're gonna try and explain away human suffer ...[text shortened]... powerful, all loving God then at least get to the meat of the issue.
(P.S Is Obama to blame?)
People who are religious and worship frequently statistically live longer and are happier. Is this a coincidence?
However, they are still sinners and still sin no matter how "good" we think we are. Unfortunately, it never leaves us until we die and shed this sin ridden body.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeI am a minister of God, I am interested in disseminating Biblical education, not the selling of pants. This is the second ludicrous contribution you have attempted to introduce into our great work of bearing Witness to the Most High, the first being that we could jog from house to house. If anyone knows pants its you sir!
If talking pants were a linguistical and physiological possibility, you sir would have an abundance of pants.
Perhaps you could sell them as you go door to door...
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16 May 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieA jogging pants salesman would have more credibility on my doorstep.
I am a minister of God, I am interested in disseminating Biblical education, not the selling of pants. This is the second ludicrous contribution you have attempted to introduce into our great work of bearing Witness to the Most High, the first being that we could jog from house to house. If anyone knows pants its you sir!
16 May 15
Originally posted by whodeyAre human beings going to be in hell, yes or no?
Why am I being bumped again?
The Bible says with 100% certainty that hell was made for Satan and his minions.
As for anyone else put there, it is unknown as to whom or why.
The Bible also says that the only possible escape is through Jesus.
The rest you can piece together for yourself. At the end of the day though, I think we are all going to be surprised. I can say that with 100% certainty
Originally posted by whodeyIt isn't a coincidence. It isn't even true. But then what would one expect from whodey?
People who are religious and worship frequently statistically live longer and are happier. Is this a coincidence?
Another statistic you probably won't like is that more socialist countries have higher life expectancies.