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Originally posted by RJHindsA mere slip of the fingertip, but too complex to be an accident I hear you say.
You take it back? Then, I guess we don't agree? That darn Satan!
Originally posted by galveston75How do you know? Do you know how fossilization takes place? What percentage of living animals get fossilized after death? Approximately how many human ancestors lived and how many fossils do you expect? Give us a rough calculation not a wild guess.
So that would mean millions if not billions of fossils would have been deposited on the surface of the earth of these beings as they died over this time.
Originally posted by twhiteheadThat is because there was not many to fossilize, since it has been only a litttle over 6000 years.
How do you know? Do you know how fossilization takes place? What percentage of living animals get fossilized after death? Approximately how many human ancestors lived and how many fossils do you expect? Give us a rough calculation not a wild guess.
[b]So where are they? Why is there only a handfull if that many of these link fossils from our supposed a ...[text shortened]... not billions you expect, because fossilization is not nearly as prevalent as you seem to think.
Originally posted by VoidSpiritthey also hunt other primates for sport and practice canibalism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcJxRqTs5nk
looks like our evolutionary cousins have empathy, a sense of morality and fairness, just like us.
Originally posted by ZahlanziThe pigeons have instincts.
they also hunt other primates for sport and practice canibalism.
do not mistake some instances where the apes "behave" with "omg thats totally empathy you guys, just like us".
pigeons, with the brains the size of a pea, behave nice. do they also have morality?
Originally posted by ZahlanziYes, pigeons have morality. Merely mentioning the size of their brains will not prove otherwise.
they also hunt other primates for sport and practice canibalism.
do not mistake some instances where the apes "behave" with "omg thats totally empathy you guys, just like us".
pigeons, with the brains the size of a pea, behave nice. do they also have morality?
Originally posted by twhitehead
Yes, pigeons have morality. Merely mentioning the size of their brains will not prove otherwise.
And humans have been known to hunt other humans for sport and practice cannibalism (in some parts of the world, they may still do so.)
If you think there is a 'mistake' in the conclusion, then explain where the mistake is rather than than simply dismissing it out of hand.
Yes, pigeons have morality.
Originally posted by twhiteheadmorality must be conscious. otherwise, a computer that doesn't delete my files might be considered moral.
Yes, pigeons have morality. Merely mentioning the size of their brains will not prove otherwise.
And humans have been known to hunt other humans for sport and practice cannibalism (in some parts of the world, they may still do so.)
If you think there is a 'mistake' in the conclusion, then explain where the mistake is rather than than simply dismissing it out of hand.
Originally posted by ZahlanziAnd what is conciousness? Are pigeons concious? And no, the size of their brain isn't going to answer that question.
morality must be conscious.
Originally posted by twhiteheadBut you haven't proved otherwise, you are just speculating because of your bias against pigeons.
And what is conciousness? Are pigeons concious? And no, the size of their brain isn't going to answer that question.
[b]size of brains or rather the complexity might prove the incapability of higher thought.
So what size exactly is required for 'higher thought'? Do you have any evidence to prove that a given size/complexity is required?
just ...[text shortened]... doubt that Hitler for example had morality. I do not think he always acted morally.
Originally posted by kevcvs57First stop the insults, that is the usual responce and I hoped that would not happen here but I'm sure the usual will happen.
Why do you fundamentalist constantly pretend not to understand the answers to the questions you ask in this infantile manner. I am sure you must know by now that we did not evolve from any monkey in existence today, but that we share a common ancestor with them.
Our ancestors did not all jump down from the trees and into the grasslands one sunday aftern ...[text shortened]... do not decide to actively evolve they simply follow a few basic rules of survival and Sh#####g.
Originally posted by galveston75Hey, G-man, come down out of your ivory tower for a minute and try to explain why humans and chimps have more than 95% of their DNA the same.
First stop the insults, that is the usual responce and I hoped that would not happen here but I'm sure the usual will happen.
I'm asking in a simple way because I would like simple answers that make sense. If there is a problem with that then don't answer.........
So I'm not looking for word's like "probably, imagine or maybe" in the answers, I wa ...[text shortened]... hey live in even as most invoroments are constantly changing from outside sourses.
Originally posted by SuzianneSo what does that have to do with anything? That comment is always made but so what? There is still a huge amount of differances between us and apes and there is still NO missing link or the thousands of links that have never been found.
Hey, G-man, come down out of your ivory tower for a minute and try to explain why humans and chimps have more than 95% of their DNA the same.
Originally posted by galveston75Then when someone goes to the bother of answering a question that could be found on wiki try not be quite so sarcastic in dismissing it incorrectly! It is childlike behaviourand does not belong in a discussion between adults..
First stop the insults, that is the usual responce and I hoped that would not happen here but I'm sure the usual will happen.
I'm asking in a simple way because I would like simple answers that make sense. If there is a problem with that then don't answer.........
So I'm not looking for word's like "probably, imagine or maybe" in the answers, I wa ...[text shortened]... hey live in even as most invoroments are constantly changing from outside sourses.