12 Sep 06
Originally posted by IronstarSo what? 500 years ago most people thought the world was flat, and there were only 5 planets in the universe. What's your point?
Yet, isn't it interesting that Christianity has over 1.9 Billion followers....making it the most followed religion in the world?
-in reply to Tooner's response-
12 Sep 06
Originally posted by scottishinnzIt is your right to make use of your free will and freedom of thought.
Yes, and he's being disingenious. This is a very common argument, the name of which has slipped my mind. The present state of the universe ONLY TELLS YOU THAT THIS IS THE PRESENT STATE OF THE UNIVERSE. In another billion universes, this conversation is being had by two protons, thanking their creator, the holy neutron. In another couple of hundred m ...[text shortened]... U AS TO WHY THAT CONDITION EXISTS. Indeed, "why" is, in my opinion a heavily loaded question.
When the time comes, don't say you haven't been warned. Remember.
All the best
12 Sep 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHThe difference, of course, being that when science is found to be wrong it corrects itself and moves on. As opposed to the mental and verbal gymnastics you are forced to lower yourself to in the "Legislating Morality" thread with Nemesio.
What!?! Science was wrong? GASP!
TheSkipper
12 Sep 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHBased on the evidence available it made its best guesses. Those models were revisited when more data became available. Science is based on evidence. Religion is based on a single book, and will actively ignore evidence if it doesn't "fit".
What!?! Science was wrong? GASP!
12 Sep 06
Originally posted by xpoferensUnfortunately, it not the perogative of all here to make use of their ability to think freely.
It is your right to make use of your free will and freedom of thought.
When the time comes, don't say you haven't been warned. Remember.
All the best
Go, learn stuff!
12 Sep 06
Originally posted by IronstarNow, please, provide empirical evidence.
God cannot send true Christians to hell, because they have asked him to forgive them of their sins and save them from eternal suffering (hell)........This is the only way to get to heaven, which is my opinion, which can be backed by the Bible.....
12 Sep 06
Originally posted by ToonerHuman nature?
Just because we don't have a solution, doesn't mean there isn't one. It's human nature to think God did it if we don't understand or can't find an answer. Like my earlier post, we used to think the sun was pulled around by chariot... until we learned more about the universe we reside. There are certainly endless amounts of knowledge that we'll never acquir ...[text shortened]... to put their hand on the bible and swear to a god in which they don't believe.
It's not human nature to think of God, it's a cultural and historical symbol.
You think of God because you've been taught to think of God, not because of some innate 'human nature'.
12 Sep 06
Originally posted by IronstarDespite the fact that the number of believers need not have any relationship to the truth of the belief, I'd like to ask you a question about your post anyway.
Yet, isn't it interesting that Christianity has over 1.9 Billion followers....making it the most followed religion in the world?
-in reply to Tooner's response-
Who exactly are you calling "Christian"? The figure you quoted includes Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, 7th Day Adventists, Calvanists, Catholics, Pentecostals, and people who play with snakes among others.
I have found that most Christians restrict the number of "True Christians" to a much smaller set. For instance a few at RHP have cited the large number of people who claim to be Christian as evidence of Christianity's truth, and then at some later point have dismissed the numerous examples of self-professed Christians who have committed heinous crimes by denying the genuineness of their faith.
It's a double standard and obviously unacceptable. So where do you draw the line?
12 Sep 06
Originally posted by TheSkipperAnd if you were actually reading the thread you would rightly assign your label... unless, of course, you have the same pre-disposition as Nemmy.
The difference, of course, being that when science is found to be wrong it corrects itself and moves on. As opposed to the mental and verbal gymnastics you are forced to lower yourself to in the "Legislating Morality" thread with Nemesio.
TheSkipper