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Originally posted by @dj2becker
So anyone who does not follow the golden rule is always justified to do so since the golden rule is not proscriptive.
Why should the fact that you get to decide your own behavior mean that doing mean stuff on purpose is no less justified? Justified to you? To me?

Justified to whom? A magical sky-daddy?

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Originally posted by @apathist
Why should the fact that you get to decide your own behavior mean that doing mean stuff on purpose is no less justified? Justified to you? To me?

Justified to whom? A magical sky-daddy?
Doing mean stuff, like taking something I believe to be Holy and hold dear to my heart and
insult by using words like "magical sky-daddy" things like that?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Doing mean stuff, like taking something I believe to be Holy and hold dear to my heart and
insult by using words like "magical sky-daddy" things like that?
I'm sorry you have no evidence? What IS the difference between thor and some x-men?

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Originally posted by @apathist
I'm sorry you have no evidence? What IS the difference between thor and some x-men?
No evidence I just quoted you! What a short memory you have.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
No evidence I just quoted you! What a short memory you have.
Yes, you quoted me no evidence. Evidence where? Evidence for what?

You're flailing, adrift.

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A million decisions face each person, all of the time. It helps to have a guideline, some rules of thumb.

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Originally posted by @apathist
Yes, you quoted me no evidence. Evidence where? Evidence for what?

You're flailing, adrift.
Magical sky daddy ring any bells?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Magical sky daddy ring any bells?
Our Father, who art in Heaven. Hence, sky daddy.
Talking snakes, virgin pregnancies, and on and on. Hence, magic.

Open your eyes. You value faith, but what do you put your faith in, AND WHY. Have you met the gods, kelly?

https://www.rationalresponders.com/a_big_list_of_gods_but_nowhere_near_all_of_them

http://pagan.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Deities

https://www.thoughtco.com/list-of-gods-and-goddesses-by-culture-118503

Don't be mad at the messenger. He's not telling you to go to hell!

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Originally posted by @apathist
Our Father, who art in Heaven. Hence, sky daddy.
Talking snakes, virgin pregnancies, and on and on. Hence, magic.

Open your eyes. You value faith, but what do you put your faith in, AND WHY. Have you met the gods, kelly?

https://www.rationalresponders.com/a_big_list_of_gods_but_nowhere_near_all_of_them

http://pagan.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Deities ...[text shortened]... s-by-culture-118503

Don't be mad at the messenger. He's not telling [b]you
to go to hell![/b]
As I said, you are an insulting person..

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
As I said, you are an insulting person..
Are you going to stop talking to him?

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deja vu

he said, puzzled

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Originally posted by @apathist
deja vu

he said, puzzled
Read the top of this page on down it is not a mystery.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Read the top of this page on down it is not a mystery.
It really isn't a mystery. Your view is insulting by its very nature, and that's okay with you.

I really hate double standards.

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Originally posted by @wolfgang59
In the modern world we give authority.
We give it to the police.
We give it to the judiciary.
We give it to politicians.
In the main it works.
In the modern world we give authority.
We give it to the police.


It is possible to get away from the police.
it is totally impossible to escape God's infallible record of everything you've done.

Eventually, every policeman too is a candidate to appear at the last judgment.


We give it to the judiciary.


This is good. But the human judiciary is not omniscient and is missing some facts.
With a well enough paid lawyer you can outwit the judiciary at their own game sometimes.

It is impossible to outwit God.
Every judge on the human appointed judiciary is also a candidate to appear at last judgment.


We give it to politicians.
In the main it works.


It has use and prevents a total slide into chaos.
But for eternity every politician also is candidate to appear before the great white throne of the last judgment.

Human government has a function to arrest the complete slide into social chaos.
But the final Judge of all mankind is God.

"Because He [God] has set a day in which He is to judge the world in righteousness by the man whom He has designated, having furnished proof to all by raising Him from the dead." (Acts 17:31)

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Only God is the infallible Judge.

Charles Manson killed about five people.
Do you think he really paid for his crimes under what civil authorities can do, putting him behind bars with no parole?

Why do so many mass murderers, after they have killed others, turn their weapon upon themselves and kill themselves? They probably THINK that by doing this they will escape having to deal with man's laws. Maybe they also can no longer live with themselves by their own conscience.

God still awaits them.