04 May 17
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeHis failing? You imply that God has tried, and failed, to reveal Himself to you. Where did you get that idea?
I'm open to God's existence.
The fact i remain unconvinced is His failing, not mine. (Your description of Him makes Him sound rather petty and vindictive,...which doesn't help his cause).
04 May 17
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeJohn 3:16 says nothing to support any notion that works are required for salvation.
You're right, the bible doesn't say ' a true deathbed conversion (after which works cannot follow) is not adequate.' But then, the bible doesn't say a lot of things. One can not find confirmation in omission. (Or you venture on to very dangerous territory indeed).
The idea that a man can live an unrighteous life right up until his death bed, void ...[text shortened]... find salvation through a last second conversion will be difficult for you to support biblically.
05 May 17
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukePlease keep in mind that your failure here is the same one the JWs are guilty of.
Just for a moment, read the following in the context of somebody being sarcastic and mocking:
"Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.” Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”
Jesus th ...[text shortened]... ers in a similar sarcastic manner:
“Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
05 May 17
Originally posted by FMFThe truth is it is you that is mocking Jesus, along with your forum cohort Ghost and others.
The thief on the cross was mocking Jesus so there's no reason to believe his "act of faith" was anything other than part of the mocking.
Even the most negligibly intelligent person reading the account can understand the thief's conversion was genuine. Any other interpretation is a mockery of God and His Word and a sure sign of abject ignorance.
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05 May 17
Originally posted by Tom WolseyJohn 3:16 also says nothing about the price of fish. What's your point?
John 3:16 says nothing to support any notion that works are required for salvation.
Are you seriously unaware of biblical passages that make clear works are required for salvation?
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Originally posted by Executioner Brand"You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. And similarly, was not Rahab the prostitute also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by another way? For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead."
All you have to do is believe.
Before jesus yes but not after.
James 2:24-26
(Apparently, for Mr Wolsey, James is less important than John).
05 May 17
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeWorks will be a result of salvation, works are not the cause of it. We all do works good and bad, but those led by God will do His works.
John 3:16 also says nothing about the price of fish. What's your point?
Are you seriously unaware of biblical passages that make clear works are required for salvation?
05 May 17
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeIf she did not believe she would not have acted as she did.
"You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. And similarly, was not Rahab the prostitute also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by another way? For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead."
James 2:24-26
(Apparently, for Mr Wolsey, James is less important than John).