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16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneYou're not being honest.
An example of your delusional thinking is your denial in another thread that in the following passage chattel slavery is clearly and unambiguously being condoned::
Leviticus 25
44‘As for your male and female slaves whom you may have—you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you. 45‘Then, too, it is out of the sons ...[text shortened]... are desperately engaging in one ad hom after another in an attempt to make yourself feel better.
If, as you assert, the Bible is open to interpretation, which is a contradiction to what Peter says, then your interpretation is no more valid than mine.
The scriptures are God breathed. They are inerrant and as infallible as God Himself.
Every thing you say is a contradiction to that. You, to your own dismay, have no authority to give commentary to the Word of God. You are disqualified, and your comments are of no consequence.
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16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterI haven’t read the relevant verses nor have I prayed in earnest beforehand. It’s not a topic of significant interest to me - mostly because I trust God and His holiness and justice.
But God’s Holy Spirit has not yet told you wether or not the critical doctrine of eternal suffering is right or not?
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Originally posted by @thinkofoneAccording to the Gospels, Jesus claimed them and is quoted as claiming them. Do you think those quotes were fabricated by the Gospel writers?
No supernatural or literally divine attributes.
16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @secondsonWell said Sir.
You're not being honest.
If, as you assert, the Bible is open to interpretation, which is a contradiction to what Peter says, then your interpretation is no more valid than mine.
The scriptures are God breathed. They are inerrant and as infallible as God Himself.
Every thing you say is a contradiction to that. You, to your own dismay, have no aut ...[text shortened]... ve commentary to the Word of God. You are disqualified, and your comments are of no consequence.
16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @secondsonYou're the one not being honest.
You're not being honest.
If, as you assert, the Bible is open to interpretation, which is a contradiction to what Peter says, then your interpretation is no more valid than mine.
The scriptures are God breathed. They are inerrant and as infallible as God Himself.
Every thing you say is a contradiction to that. You, to your own dismay, have no aut ...[text shortened]... ve commentary to the Word of God. You are disqualified, and your comments are of no consequence.
With the Bible being so heavily steeped in metaphor, there's no getting around the fact that it's widely open to interpretation. The tens of thousands of denominations of Christianity bear that out. If it weren't open to interpretation, there only be a small fraction of that. Even your belief that the Bible is "inerrant and..infallible" is an interpretation in and of itself of what "God breathed" entails. There are many Christians who do not hold that belief.
Your denial that Leviticus 25:44-46 clearly and unambiguously condones chattel slavery clearly demonstrates your dishonesty and hypocrisy. Evidently it doesn't square with your conception of God, so you deny that it says what it clearly says.
16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @thinkofone'By and large, I find the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry to be reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within themselves. What's more, I find much of what was attributed to Him to be remarkably deep and quite profound. As such, by and large, I find the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth to be "true". '
By and large, I find the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry to be reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within themselves. What's more, I find much of what was attributed to Him to be remarkably deep and quite profound. As such, by and large, I find the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth to be "true".
I don't share that ...[text shortened]... se words, most of the inconsistencies, discrepancies and outright contradictions are weeded out.
You repeatedly cut and paste this same carefully worded blurb in lieu of any specific answer, like some dodgy politician's press release. At the very least recognize that 'remarkably deep' and 'quite profound' have essentially the same meaning. (By and large).
16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeIt basically answers the question in the OP. It definitely was a much more substantial answer than most offered. If someone offered a more substantial answer, I didn't see it.
'By and large, I find the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry to be reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within themselves. What's more, I find much of what was attributed to Him to be remarkably deep and quite profound. As such, by and large, I find the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth to be "true". '
You repe ...[text shortened]... e that 'remarkably deep' and 'quite profound' have essentially the same meaning. (By and large).
GoaD continues to troll.
GoaD started as a troll. He continues as a troll. See the following thread for an example of his early efforts.
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/spirituality/john-858.164426
The following thread is another early example of GoaD's trolling. Note how his posts were in an effort to "stir the pot".
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/spirituality/salvation.165585
This is nothing new from GoaD.
16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneYou can keep singing that same song all day, but by your logic your opinion of interpretation is no more valid than anyone else's.
You're the one not being honest.
With the Bible being so heavily steeped in metaphor, there's no getting around the fact that it's widely open to interpretation. The tens of thousands of denominations of Christianity bear that out. If it weren't open to interpretation, there only be a small fraction of that. Even your belief that the Bible is "inerran ...[text shortened]... ly it doesn't square with your conception of God, so you deny that it says what it clearly says.
You shot yourself in your own foot, so hobble back to whatever irrelevant obscurity you came from.
Just being honest. Maybe someday you'll be open to understanding what it really means to interpret the scriptures.
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16 Apr 18
I personally think the Bible speaks to people in unique ways. It’s probably not correct for me to have said that means different interpretations are possible with each being valid, but I do think what someone takes away from a verse and/or passage and how it benefits him or her is not uniform across all believers.
Originally posted by @secondsonPresumably if you were able to respond with a cogent argument, you would have.
You can keep singing that same song all day, but by your logic your opinion of interpretation is no more valid than anyone else's.
You shot yourself in your own foot, so hobble back to whatever irrelevant obscurity you came from.
Just being honest. Maybe someday you'll be open to understanding what it really means to interpret the scriptures.
Failing that, all you have is what amounts to an incoherent ad hom.
Never ceases to amaze me how so many Christians hate truth and choose to live in darkness - denial of the truth.
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16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @thinkofone<<Never ceases to amaze me how so many Christians hate truth and choose to live in darkness - denial of the truth.>>
Presumably if you were able to respond with a cogent argument, you would have.
Failing that, all you have is what amounts to an incoherent ad hom.
Never ceases to amaze me how so many Christians hate truth and choose to live in darkness - denial of the truth.
You mean like denying Jesus’ deity the way you do?
16 Apr 18
Originally posted by @romans1009In the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry, He never claimed to be God. On the contrary, He often explicitly stated that He is a son of God. He calls His followers to also become sons of God. All the claims you've made to the contrary don't hold under the light of truth.
<<Never ceases to amaze me how so many Christians hate truth and choose to live in darkness - denial of the truth.>>
You mean like denying Jesus’ deity the way you do?
The following applies to you as well:
<<Never ceases to amaze me how so many Christians hate truth and choose to live in darkness - denial of the truth.>>